chapeau";p="2746304 said:
That's a good example. I don't think we were lied to, electrons can be particles if you want to look at them that way. Let's call that O-level standard.
But they can also be waves, but to understand them as waves you need to understand a lot more maths. It might take until A-level before you have had the time to learn all that.
Then you get quantum mechanics and probability coming in. So you need to know more complex maths. So you are only in a position to understand them later on in your education, back in my day that was A-level.
Then the waves might be strings or whatever, and you need more maths. So maybe that is degree level.
The same person who understands electrons as strings at 21 would only have been able to understand particles when aged 15. He's no more intelligent though. And I don't think he was ever lied to, what he was taught was accurate for the stage he was at.
Yes that's probably true. But you have to remember that a lot of people who could have understood strings went on to become history professors. Or wanted to make furniture. Or had a father who wanted him to be an electrician. Or he just wanted to become a ski-bum. So a lot of people who were smart enough to become physics professors just didn't like physics enough to study physics at A-Level, or did something else completely.
But at the end of the day humans have proven they we create computers and software. This essentially means that we can use these tools to extend our abilities.
(And there is no reason why we aren't a computer simulation written by somebody else. One day we might write such a program to simulate life - the objects in that computer program might genuinely believe themselves to be alive - another thread I guess)
Totally agree, there is no parallel to us humans with any other species, goes to show you how special we are.
all that bull about evolution!
The mention of "thinking computors" or AI is interesting but as computor intelligence increases is it right to suppose human intelligence will also increase? If we have machines to solve all our problems we could find ourselves becoming lazy and possibly even stupider, after all we have cars and trains to help us move around and very few people walk more than 1/2 a mile very often so as a species we have become fatter and more unfit.
So that's it , our future is as dumb lardarses
So that's it , our future is as dumb lardarses
I think the hope for some is that as machines become clever they will be able to do all the thinking for us. Solving seemingly insurmountable problems etc. Of course they might think why do we need these cnts.
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Sombrero
This is so true, i've mentioned it before... AI will become more intelligent than us, and attach that to a JCB with accurate laser weaponry, we're really no longer required... a robot doesn't need a 'reasonably effective' bioligical master.. why would it?
But to get back on track, is that the point we know too much, when we creates robots that take over?
I can imagine, man devices a complex and highly intelligent machine/robot that is capable of reading your mind's waves, and knows what you are thinking of, as well as it is full of emotional senses, and feels for its own life as it were, and imagine you the maker of it one day thought you would dismantle the ******* as it had become abusive and dominating, and had punched your face blue and black! so before you could even lift the screwdriver to disconnect his batteries, he zaps you in your chair dead!
If I am not wrong, someone somewhere right now is experimenting with a monkey or monkies wiring their brains to a computer and experimenting to see how an electronic brain could replace a human brain one day for a transplant, some of us on here could do with one, I certainly can!
If I am not wrong, someone somewhere right now is experimenting with a monkey or monkies wiring their brains to a computer and experimenting to see how an electronic brain could replace a human brain one day for a transplant, some of us on here could do with one, I certainly can!
Probably the first sensible thing you've posted on here.
sorry duplicated post ----------see below thanks. hit the wrong button, I could never be good behind a nuclear switch board!
Mikefromlondon";p="2747324 said:
That was an equation was it, sorry I didn't realise. 
Sombrero said:
There may come a point at which each generation spends all of its time and resources passing their accumulated knowledge on to the next.
and also said:
I'd say that's a dead certainty!
joinerjohn said:
I don't think we should even try to do that. One intelligent and thoroughly dangerous species on this planet is enough already.
Brigadier said:
And our ability to make things has generally run well ahead of our ability to use them wisely.
Already passed that point I reckon. We have to specialise as individuals now and we have libraries where we can look things up. So we passed that point and it wasn't a big deal.
