Huntley

[Shifty22]

It's easy to have mixed opinions on this subject, I have weighed up the pro's and con's and have come to the conclusion that I don't care he had his throat slashed, I'm more annoyed with the guy who failed to do the job properly.

Most of us will never experience the pain of losing a child but to have your child killed by a piece of sh*t like Huntley would be the closest example to hell that you could endure.

I want justice for the parents of the murdered children and I'd put money on it that they were happy about what happened to Huntley recently.

Some people are beyond rehabilitation, he is one of them.

 

[GotWood]

He may be rehabilitated; he may undergo all the appropriate therapies and show genuine guilt and remorse. At which point he should be forgiven and released (at the end of his prison term).

The difficulty, and the problem with our justice system, is that even if this happened he will still be vilified and not trusted.

 

[oompah]

At which point he should be forgiven and released (at the end of his prison term).

The only time he should be released is when they release his body to an undertaker.

 

[EddieM]

Hmm, a tricky one. Losing one's liberty is the punishment. That said, it is incredibly hard to contain one's absolute vitriol for the guy. Don't see how he can ever come out of jail.

However as a society we have to rise above the worthless, vile and evil scum that occasionally invade our worlds. I have no sympathy at all for huntley, but I do have hope for the rest of the generally law abiding society.

His crime simply transcends everything that is right and proper and I share probably all posters view on my absolute disgust at his crimes.

RIP Holly and Jessica

 

[obmcfc]

He may be rehabilitated; he may undergo all the appropriate therapies and show genuine guilt and remorse. At which point he should be forgiven and released (at the end of his prison term).

The difficulty, and the problem with our justice system, is that even if this happened he will still be vilified and not trusted.

he doesn't deserve to be trusted,

 

[GotWood]

That is precisely my point. Once you have committed a crime, you will forever be a criminal in the public's eye.

This is why even if rehabilitation is successful, we still won't accept them back into society and allow them to live a normal life - this in turn could prompt a return to previous wrong behaviours.

I don't know what the solution is but, but I do know that offering vigilante opinions very destructive and further breeds a mistrusting, paranoid and judgemental society.

Anyone who shows regret and remorse and has served their time should be welcomed back - regardless of what they have done.

 

[Big Tone]

If I may put a different slant on it..

Who says it's about Huntley? I think it's more about sending a very clear message to any and every ******* like him that if you commit such a vile, despicable and sadistic crime there is only one outcome - EVER!

The problem is you can commit the most heinous of crimes these days and go on to live a comfortable life, a life which they denied others, and come out before time with a Masters degree all paid for by us, the tax payer, lest we forget.

 

[GotWood]

if you commit such a vile, despicable and sadistic crime there is only one outcome - EVER!

The majority of criminals aren't caught: Many would take an educated risk to satisfy a desire, many do and many don't get caught. Look at the high murder rates in the USA despite having the death penalty.

before time with a Masters degree all paid for by us, the tax payer

Which they can't use because we are too busy looking down on them.

Daily Mail reader perchance?

 

[Norcon]

See the handbags were flailing on the SAD NEWS thread. LOL

Wonder if this one will end up locked.

 

[skitzee2k]

See the handbags were flailing on the SAD NEWS thread. LOL

Wonder if this one will end up locked.

WELL...firstly you have to decide. Is prison a place where criminals go to 'get better' or is it revenge?

 

[noseall]

Prison is there as a punishment first and foremost.

PUNISHMENT.

If you can not get your head around the fact that criminals need to be punished then you have got your head in the sand.

The fact that the general public feel warm and comfy knowing that the nations criminals are receiving punishment and are locked away is not at all unhealthy.

It is those idiots that wish to free these "rehabilitated" horror stories that send a shiver down many peoples' spine.

 

[sooey]

He may be rehabilitated; he may undergo all the appropriate therapies and show genuine guilt and remorse. At which point he should be forgiven and released (at the end of his prison term).

The difficulty, and the problem with our justice system, is that even if this happened he will still be vilified and not trusted.

He should be released....

Just as soon as those two little girls start breathing again.

 

[Big Tone]

if you commit such a vile, despicable and sadistic crime there is only one outcome - EVER!

The majority of criminals aren't caught: Many would take an educated risk to satisfy a desire, many do and many don't get caught. Look at the high murder rates in the USA despite having the death penalty.

before time with a Masters degree all paid for by us, the tax payer

Which they can't use because we are too busy looking down on them.

Daily Mail reader perchance?

Yes, I read the Daily Mail and many others too, impartially, because they all have an agenda all over the world if you have ever travelled. Sorry if that’s shocking news..

So I am not some loyal member of that or any other newspaper or political party, if that's what you're suggesting, and yes I do look down on those ba$tards

If it was your child how forgiving would you be? Bible basher perchance?

If I saw a young girl being raped I would not wait for justice. Heaven forbid it should be a child or grandchild of yours but I just guess you would forgive the rapist and have me sent down for ripping his balls off? (Rhetorical).

As someone who has known girls whom have been raped and even had one dear woman knock on my door past midnight, (absolutely beside herself with terror like I cannot describe), because I’m the one person she trusts and can come to I can tell you it will live with me for life, although nothing like it will for her......

With respect, I don’t think you have the faintest idea what these ba$ards do to the victim or the family or the life sentence they all endure!!!

You try to sanitize and justify their behaviour and just like so many crimes these days no-one gives a sh1t about the victims! It's always about little Johnny and how he needs a vacation in Spain. No! **** them!!!

If there was such a thing as a video of life which we could rewind you might just take your words back, although I doubt it which I think speaks volumes about your ignorance or lack of compassion for the innocent.

This is too close to my personal experiences to reply or check into again but hopefully there are other like-minded people here who are cut from the same cloth as me.

 

[sooey]

This is too close to my personal experiences to reply or check into again but hopefully there are other like-minded people here who are cut from the same cloth as me.

I think you'll find you're in the majority, the silent majority unfortunately.
Meanwhile it's all the mouthy do gooder types who've took over and f*cked up the country.
I suppose it's the silent majorities own fault for being too disinterested to put themselves out.

 

[GotWood]

Bible basher perchance?

Nope, not religious. And I have no clue why this would be relevant. Because of the mention of forgiveness? Do you have to be religious to forgive?!

If it was your child how forgiving would you be?

I don't know if I could forgive, but if they showed remorse, regret and a desire to change then I would want to be able to. The foundations of our justice system are that the sentence they serve 'pays' for the crime they committed, i.e. once they are out they are to treated as anybody else. People make mistakes.

I don’t think you have the faintest idea what these ba$ards do to the victim or the family

I don't need to understand in order to make this point.

You try to sanitize and justify their behaviour and just like so many crimes these days no-one gives a s**t about the victims!

A ridiculous comment. Exactly when have I sanitized or justified their actions? And how exactly will killing (or whichever punishment you think is appropriate) undo the harm that person has done? Make the parents feel superficially better for a few minutes before realising there is a? Not every crime is black and white.

I doubt it which I think speaks volumes about your ignorance or lack of compassion for the innocent.

Why does this always have to become personal. I resent being called ignorant, or that I lack compassion. I think you need to read posts more carefully and not immediately jump on the reactionary bandwagon.

This is too close to my personal experiences to reply or check into again

After a vain rant like that, yes you will check in again (though may not respond).

The majority of posts stating revengeful views are hypocritical and self-indulgent. Everyone puffs out their chests and heroically states how they would kill (whatever) some criminal they have no personal connection with, yet if everyone really, genuinely, felt this passion every victims charity would be overwhelmed with volunteers and donations. They aren't.

What an angry, vengeful, cynical society we live in.