Hydrogen Water Bottle

[Elsa TLC]

Have you read that? Whatever it is it's not a systematic review. A systematic review finds all the relevant papers, screens then for quality and compares outcomes, both positive and negative.

That just lists everything that hydrogen rich water has ever been tested for and lists it as a benefit or a potential lead without any scrutiny or attempt to compare across papers, which is the entire point.

If that's the best there is then it's absolute junk. That makes Andrew Wakefield look like a medical professional.

I only asked a question.
Talk about mountains hills and moles.

 

[MNW67]

The questions are:

Does molecular hydrogen have any benefit in the body.

If so, does this water bottle deliver molecular hydrogen to the body in sufficient quantities.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Get hold of some dihydrogen monoxide. It has great health beneficial qualities, but be careful, as it can sometimes kill.

 

[IT Minion]

It appears you jumped in feet first to claim it’s snake oil without any knowledge of the research? This is not the first time I’ve heard people suggest it may work. I personally do not buy in to it and certainly not £30+ quid for a water bottle.

But I do not dismiss something unless I’ve done some research.

Hydrogen Water: Are There Health Benefits?

Research into the health benefits of hydrogen water is limited, and more studies are needed to confirm the findings. Learn more about the potential benefits of hydrogen water.

www.webmd.com

I'm a sceptic, when I hear about a miracle cure for cancer, joint pain, aging and 'performance' then my default position is that it's probably nonsense and a scam, because it nearly always is.

But I do read the research where possible. I've looked through the first 8 or so of the papers the company linked to, I've skimmed through the study you linked to. I would be very surprised if you've done even that basic level of diligence. I've checked a fact checking podcast that did a deeper dive into it and found it wanting.

This is not the first time I’ve heard people suggest it may work

People claim prayer can cure cancer. I've heard people say it has been proven by science.

 

[IT Minion]

I only asked a question.
Talk about mountains hills and moles.

Yeah, you should just buy the three pack. That discount won't be available forever.

 

[Elsa TLC]

Yeah, you should just buy the three pack. That discount won't be available forever.

I got a six pack. I didn't want to miss out....

 

[morqthana]

What about methane water?

You can make that yourself at home, with a length of hose and a suitable adapter...

 

[Stivino]

What about methane water?

I sometimes bath in that.

 

[Odds]

What about methane water?

You can make that yourself at home, with a length of hose and a suitable adapter...

 

[MNW67]

The basic theory seems to be that the body is constantly producing hydroxyl 'radicals'. A radical is like a molecule, except that it has a single electron missing. This makes the hydroxyl radical very unstable and damaging, because it will react with whatever it bumps into e.g. your DNA or the protein in your joints. And the claim is that this can lead to diseases like rheumatoid arthritis or cancer. So, the idea is to send something into the body to react with these hydroxyl radicals before they can do any damage. In this case, molecules of hydrogen gas dissolved in water. After you drink the water, it gets absorbed into the bloodstream and the dissolved hydrogen quickly disperses throughout every cell in the body. The claim is that it then reacts with the hydroxyl radicals to neutralise them before they can do any damage. The end product of the reaction is actually normal water.

 

[motorbiking]

I'm a sceptic, when I hear about a miracle cure for cancer, joint pain, aging and 'performance' then my default position is that it's probably nonsense and a scam, because it nearly always is.

me too, the "nutrition" industry is full of such claims and most of the cr*p out there are pyramid marketing scams.

But I do read the research where possible. I've looked through the first 8 or so of the papers the company linked to, I've skimmed through the study you linked to. I would be very surprised if you've done even that basic level of diligence. I've checked a fact checking podcast that did a deeper dive into it and found it wanting.

It will take you 5 mins of googling to find opinion, research etc from reliable sources.

People claim prayer can cure cancer. I've heard people say it has been proven by science.

Feel free to post such proof.

 

[motorbiking]

The basic theory seems to be that the body is constantly producing hydroxyl 'radicals'. A radical is like a molecule, except that it has a single electron missing. This makes the hydroxyl radical very unstable and damaging, because it will react with whatever it bumps into e.g. your DNA or the protein in your joints. And the claim is that this can lead to diseases like rheumatoid arthritis or cancer. So, the idea is to send something into the body to react with these hydroxyl radicals before they can do any damage. In this case, molecules of hydrogen gas dissolved in water. After you drink the water, it gets absorbed into the bloodstream and the dissolved hydrogen quickly disperses throughout every cell in the body. The claim is that it then reacts with the hydroxyl radicals to neutralise them before they can do any damage. The end product of the reaction is actually normal water.

What's wrong with the hydrogen in the water already?

 

[MNW67]

What's wrong with the hydrogen in the water already?

It's all bonded to oxygen!

 

[motorbiking]

It's all bonded to oxygen!

it actually isn't, but I wasn't meaning those atoms, I meant the extra hydrogen that occurs naturally, in water.

 

[MNW67]

it actually isn't, but I wasn't meaning those atoms, I meant the extra hydrogen that occurs naturally, in water.

I think there is only a trace amount of "extra" hydrogen occurring naturally in water. But presumably that would contribute a tiny effect.

it actually isn't

What are you referring to here. Would be interested to know! Do you mean dissociation.