ID cards, are you scared?

[ellal]

You do love an old thread.

Given mottie's age/condition it's only a few hours old for him

 

[Mottie]

Given mottie's age/condition it's only a few hours old for him

Total meaningless snipey childless drivel, even by your standards. Have another go at an insult. Again, the winky doesn’t make you look any less of a ****!

 

[King Billy]

Total meaningless snipey childless drivel, even by your standards. Have another go at an insult. Again, the winky doesn’t make you look any less of a ****!

How others see you.

 

[Mottie]

How others see you.

I see you’ve learned from your tag partner to put a smiley at the end of your posts too. It doesn’t work for him and it doesn’t work for you.

 

[Mottie]

Does two do it?

Difference is, I don’t do it when I’ve made a sly/snidey/snipey dig. Passive aggressive I think some people call it. “Only a joke”. “Tee hee”. “What a funny fella I am”. Is that what the pair of you are trying to convey to the mods? I just see it as trying to look less of a **** than you really are. Carry on. You’re fooling nobody.

 

[ellal]

Difference is, I don’t do it when I’ve made a sly/snidey/snipey dig. Passive aggressive I think some people call it. “Only a joke”. “Tee hee”. “What a funny fella I am”

Really?

So what was it you also said?

Oh that's right...

"Is that what the pair of you are trying to convey to the mods? I just see it as trying to look less of a **** than you really are. Carry on. You’re fooling nobody"

The cap seems to fit you mottie

 

[Justin Passing]

Which is precisely why I said we need to feel confident about
a) personal information that we provide,
b) personal information obtained and held by others and
c) the use to which any government (or other data holder) is allowed to make use of such information.

Without and until we have that confidence we should be wary of attempts to force through legislation that requires us to provide information, and who is allowed to hold such information, and for what purposes.

And we won't all arrive at that 'full confidence' point at the same time. That means efforts should be targeted at gaining the confidence rather than imposing systems that haven't addressed the issues or reasons for the lack of confidence.

In systems development and introduction there are several options for the new system delivery:
1) a date and time when everyone changes to the new system, no ifs or buts. The old system becomes defunct and only the new system is available.
2) the two systems run in parallel and the user chooses which system to use. The intention is to make the new system better/easier/offering more benefits etc that it becomes the preferred option. The old system dies a slow but sure death.
3) a phased rollout (targeting some users, a geographical region, a service delivery, etc,) allows the system development and the users to learn from, and improve the ease of use and increase the benefits of the new system so that it becomes the preferred option. This phased approach can be combined and implemented in either of the options 1 and 2 above.

A trial group was attempted and for whatever reason, a full rollout was terminated.
Several repeated failed rollouts become a comedy, an expensive waste of resources, and build resistance.

I agree with you. A good post - just saying.

 

[ellal]

Well Andy Burnham has maybe made a good start?

"Burnham to scrap Starmer digital ID scheme in first major policy pledge"

Link

Strange though that he was the junior minister in charge of trying to force through ID cards 20 years ago...

So not sure he's any different from any other flip flopping politician!

 

[Dec27]

Well Burnham has made a good start...

"Burnham to scrap Starmer digital ID scheme in first major policy pledge"

Link

That’s a good start! Unless it’s something pre planned

 

[aveatry]

Cancelling digital ID, blair will be furious. Lets watch all the vote labour for ever crowd on here say that its a good policy after months of supporting it and calling those who were against it tin foil hat wearers etc.
Everyone needs a "conspiracy theory" friend because sooner or later - mainly sooner they are proved right.
Next lets do human climate change and covid- Andy has already said - oil -drill baby drill ( in a manner of speaking for those with autistic traits and take everything literally ) or for those like liar nose-f-all who will argue for 15 pages - he didn’t say that

 

[noseall]

vote labour for ever

Hear, hear!

 

[motorbiking]

DIgital ID was already dead, Burnham wont save much by scrapping the project now. It's just a headline grabber.

 

[ellal]

DIgital ID was already dead, Burnham wont save much by scrapping the project now. It's just a headline grabber.

Most policy statements are just that...

But it'll signal a change from the past leader which is the important thing.

Plus anything that p*sses off blair has to be a good thing!

 

[Odds]

It's only a matter of time before a scheme is adopted, though...with everything becoming digital, it's only a matter of time.

 

[IT Minion]

*Looks at official government ID on phone.*

Yes.