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Igorian
I don't have a problem with the idea. It's the thought of paying for them that sux.
Latest word in the media is that by the time they become compulsory they will be £300! And of course they (HMG) have got around some non-payers by linking their issue with passport renewals. Refuse to pay for your ID card, no new passport! Ain't life grand? 
some of us have had them for years
Ok having complex cards .. you need the means to interrogate them - quickly - If that is to be simple then watch the counterfeitors go to town ...
On the surface a good idea .. will it be the same as the old motor docs ? good for catching out people who comply ...
Someone close to me had an Id card from birth .. didn't stop terrorism in their home country !!
Surely DNA signatures are the thing to have encoded ? Or is the establishment afraid :-
(a) That crims may be dead to rights and less lucrative with respect to defence in court ... That of course leads to (b) Or are they afraid that their stats models may be shattered, once the whole population is sampled .. in terms of the odds against similarity, perhaps proven not high enough in reality to enable safe conviction ?
On the surface a good idea .. will it be the same as the old motor docs ? good for catching out people who comply ...
Someone close to me had an Id card from birth .. didn't stop terrorism in their home country !!
Surely DNA signatures are the thing to have encoded ? Or is the establishment afraid :-
(a) That crims may be dead to rights and less lucrative with respect to defence in court ... That of course leads to (b) Or are they afraid that their stats models may be shattered, once the whole population is sampled .. in terms of the odds against similarity, perhaps proven not high enough in reality to enable safe conviction ?
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pna
I'm afraid I don't understand the ID card thing - will slightly hinder known terrorists (stops them pretending to be someone else), but if they are not known, such as some of the guys involved 9/11, what difference will it make?
Say 50 million cards, each taking an hour of time altogether to get from notification to card in hand 50mil hrs = 297,619 weeks 24/7 = 5,723 years 24/7 an horrendous logistical problem .. all the errors, all the updates, all the aggro, those supplying will need people to design etc.. they'll leak 'what and how' to the counterfeiters ... Change the system, change the cards ... here we go again ...
The cr ap systems they'll buy in at astronomical cost .. which perhaps will never work (a) Because they'll be the usual rubbish and (b) Never get to be used because the HMG anchors will cancel it all, once they've chucked away more of our money, anyway.
Common sense says, if having a card keep it simple, such that it can be simply updated extended .. maybe only extended for crims ?
Don't try to produce an 'all singing all dancing' info card ... will become Jack of all trades master of none .. and a total crock of sh ite .. which is normal ...
The cr ap systems they'll buy in at astronomical cost .. which perhaps will never work (a) Because they'll be the usual rubbish and (b) Never get to be used because the HMG anchors will cancel it all, once they've chucked away more of our money, anyway.
Common sense says, if having a card keep it simple, such that it can be simply updated extended .. maybe only extended for crims ?
Don't try to produce an 'all singing all dancing' info card ... will become Jack of all trades master of none .. and a total crock of sh ite .. which is normal ...
pipme said:
Yes, sure, cause why would UK ever buy a system abroad that has already proven that it works ???
Always re-inventing the wheel
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