illegal fugee makes a mint

[joe-90]

It has a lot to do with it actually - as we are talking about fraudulent claiming - and you can't just restrict this to looking at asylum seekers only.
I haven't actually said or implyed in my post that it doesn't justify preventing asylum fraud.........
I'm sorry that you don't understand 'my logic' - it's not that complicated though - my logic is that benefit fraud is benefit fraud - whether it's by asylum seekers or others - and should be tackled as such.

I don't agree with any 'group' of people undetaking fraudulent claims no matter who they are.

The tens of millions of pounds you mention can't even sort out the fraudsters from this Country never mind the asylum seekers!!

To Julie, Softus and Oilman.
Where have I said that I disagree with what you have said?

However, the asylum seekeer is a different problem to those of us that have NI numbers and passports and birth certificates.

The AS has no means of identification, which means he can file a claim in London, Birmingham, Newcastle, Crewe and any other city, calling himself by whatever name he dreams up. The only way to stop this is to give the claimant an ID. That can be by DNA, fingerprints, iris recognition, etc. This can then form a database whereby every new claim is cross referenced against the claims already submitted. A fingerprint search could be carried out whilst the claiment is within a secure are. If there is already a fingerprint matching his on the system then he can be apprehended there and then and expelled from the country.
It's not just multiple claims that would be prevented. You just aren;'t thinking this thing through.

If an AS (after years of expensive appeals) is removed from the country, then what (as things stand) is to prevent the guy coming straight back in the back of a lorry and claiming asylum? Another load of appeals - and he MAY get kicked out, but he may also have got his story right this time around. If he does get kicked out - he comes back and claims asylum for another few years. If there were fingerprint checks he couldn't do that. He would be sussed out at the point of claim and removed from the country. No appeals - just gone.

Do you have a problem with that? If so - why?

 

[Slogger]

stop any more coming here and put the ones already here on food stamps if nothing else but to make them feel unwelcome we dont want them they are the scum of the earth all part of an islamic take over bid

 

[Freddie]

stop any more coming here and put the ones already here on food stamps if nothing else but to make them feel unwelcome we dont want them they are the scum of the earth all part of an islamic take over bid

Not giving money to any state claiment has always been the best idea.

Food vouchures only transferable with i.d. would give the goverment massive buying power at supermarkets and shops and give the tax payer more savings and be better for the receiver of state aid as it goes where it should instead of down the pub--on the horses--drugs--and other places.

 

[jbonding]

i dont know if they still do it, in ireland all immigrants, dont know if illegal or not are given socialising money on top of the money they receive to socialise with the irish. unfortunetly a lot of the immigrants dont drink so thats a waste of time.I think a lot of racism exists because people feel immigrants get a better deal than themselves and in most cases it looks that way.lets say you visited any of these muslim countries what are the chances of me opening my own catholic church,book shop,catholic care homes,advise centre for the catholics,catholic food shops,catholic immigration advise centre,catholic school for girls and boys,pubs and clubs,wine shops and video shops. It isnt gonna happen and if thats the way of the land so be it. This country is bending over backwards to accomodate immigrants and there muslim faith. The point im making is you cant go to a foreign country and expect them to change everything to accomodate you, but this is what people are seeing. 10 years time its not gonna get better, its getting worse pc is up the wall. heres an example i read in the evening news yesterday, a resident in levenshulme received a card for eid from the lib-dems, but what anoyyed them was theyde never received a christmas card before. most of the neighbours who are asian never sent them an eid card but always a christmas card. if the lib dems ever get in it will be the end.

 

[kendor]

Are you saying Bush and Blair's romantic attempt at being world leaders is a war ?

the definition of war is Legalised butchery! you don't need to add anymore.

 

[Slogger]

then say something to your mp dont take it anymore tell them you want to close the door if we all said it the door would be welded shut

 

[petewood]

Slogger do you have any other records you can play?

 

[kendor]

Slogger do you have any other records you can play?

perhaps he should stop playing them backwards listening out for hidden messages from Satan.

 

[Softus]

then say something to your mp dont take it anymore tell them you want to close the door if we all said it the door would be welded shut

All due credit to you Slogger - this is the right approach. The outcome can't be predicted with any certainty, but outspoken public opinion has traditionally been the most effective way of influencing our government's decisions.

 

[kendor]

All due credit to you Slogger - this is the right approach. The outcome can't be predicted with any certainty, but outspoken public opinion has traditionally been the most effective way of influencing our government's decisions.

unfortunately it didn't work with iraq

 

[Softus]

All due credit to you Slogger - this is the right approach. The outcome can't be predicted with any certainty, but outspoken public opinion has traditionally been the most effective way of influencing our government's decisions.

unfortunately it didn't work with iraq

In that, you're indisputably correct kendor, but sometimes doing the right thing doesn't lead to the right outcome. Nevertheless, it remains the right thing, IMHO.

 

[kendor]

In that, you're indisputably correct kendor, but sometimes doing the right thing doesn't lead to the right outcome. Nevertheless, it remains the right thing, IMHO.

unfortunately it's only in hindsight you can know

 

[Slogger]

hindsight ? oh u mean history ah well then look to the news


we all know the answer and its a closed door slamming in there faces with armed guards actually doing there job


if any illegal does get here take him home asap regardless of the initial cost i am sure we could make it a military op


i personally would set a death penalty on anyone crossing our borders illegally and call them terrorists faster cheaper and in the long run so much safer

 

[Moz]

regarding bLiars Illegal war....for the U$ oil in Iraq


Who was it that said ...
Its the Victors who write the History Books ....


btw anyone watching the excellent BBC Rome prog....very good an amusing

 

[petewood]

Its the Victors who write the History Books ....

Apart from Japan!