is it two problems?

[corgiman]

Far be it from me to be a "corgi nazi" but i would strongly suggest that you disregard raden advice (not saying you are not able to do it raden just saying that you should not) especially the bit about a reconditioned board.

Manufacturers get upset if you do and your house insurance, if they can prove its at fault and they will, will not pay out in the event of any fire/damage caused by the board.

As for replacing the board whilst Unregistered, well the board does control all the safety devices of the boiler and as such must be changed by a proven competent person (ie CORGI)

Thats my tuppence worth.

 

[geoff@cetltd]

Far be it from me to be a "corgi nazi" but i would strongly suggest that you disregard raden advice (not saying you are not able to do it raden just saying that you should not) especially the bit about a reconditioned board.

Who says should not ?

Manufacturers get upset if you do

So what ?

and your house insurance, if they can prove its at fault and they will, will not pay out in the event of any fire/damage caused by the board.

Same with any other faulty part

As for replacing the board whilst Unregistered, well the board does control all the safety devices of the boiler and as such must be changed by a proven competent person (ie CORGI)

All the safety devices ?

Overhheat stat and APS

I don't get the "and as such" tie in between the two - it's a tenuous connection at best

As for CORGIs being provably competent, I think I shot that one down in flames the other night




Thats my tuppence worth.

 

[corgiman]

All the safety devices ?

Overhheat stat and APS

I don't get the "and as such" tie in between the two - it's a tenuous connection at best

As for CORGIs being provably competent, I think I shot that one down in flames the other night



Dont think i was having a pop raden, do what you like, I agree with you re CORGI, that just proves you can pass a test, but thats the law like it or not

I dont see how the over heat stat and APS switch can be a tenous connection raden they are both important safety features

what about the gas valve, flame rec and boiler stat they are all controlled from the PCB?

As I said no skin of my nose what you do but thems the rules.

 

[geoff@cetltd]

How do I post a photo ?

 

[corgiman]

I have no idea why raden ?

 

[geoff@cetltd]

Yeah -flame sensing

but the o/h stat - who would test this ?

nobody

APS - it tests by going through the start up sequence

who ever checks that it's set to the correct pressure

Flame sensing -it works or it doesn't

 

[Agile]

Raden says """I seem to have ended up on an anti CORGI NAZI crusade here for some reason - mainly because they don't seem to appreciate that some people have a clue, and I resent that as someone who has"""

What he means is that IN HIS OPINION he has a clue!

That does not mean that every one else here automatically thinks that "he has a clue" !

What I would say to everyone else is """ If Raden is so clued up then why does he not become CORGI registered like the rest of us ? """

 

[geoff@cetltd]

I took a couple of photos today

one of a new puma fsc pcb which can't possibly work, showing how you can't put blind trust in manudacturers parts

and one of a puma mod pcb which has a semi decent burn, which CORGIs are replacing on a regular basis and if they have any experience will know the probability of it ending up like the photo
- which wouldn't happpen on a recon board

 

[geoff@cetltd]

because raden isn't a fitter, nor does he want to become one

 

[corgiman]

oh dear I am out of this one I have already got lor to deal with dont need another slanging match

 

[kevplumb]

how to post a pic

 

[geoff@cetltd]

Cheers - I emailed it ...
I'll see what happens

 

[DIYnot]

Here are Radens photos:

Picture 1
Picture 2

 

[Softus]

What I would say to everyone else is """ If Raden is so clued up then why does he not become CORGI registered like the rest of us ? """

Since you've addressed everyone else, here's my opinion:

There's no connection between being clued up, in the context of this topic, and being CORGI registered. It would be easy to infer from your post, Agile, that you believe everyone who isn't CORGI registered isn't "clued up". Perhaps you didn't imply that, but without that inference your post has no point at all.

If you want to resurrect the argument about whether Suprima PCB replacement is not a safe course of action for a DIY exponent, then please be explicit about what you're saying.

AFAI recall, the relevant legislation doesn't make any distinction about the replacement of an electronic component. A competent person will not be able to make a mistake when installing the upgrade kit.

 

[corgiman]

I agree soft, you really cannot get the new suprima board wrong as the colours are harmonious.

But I have spoken to CORGI this morning, was the first to call , and their tech helpline mush said that this is a definate no no for a NRGI to undertake as the PCB is the control system for the boiler.

Again I am not saying that this is an extremely technical job as it isnt, but just stating the rules as laid down in GSIU regs.

and they do say that a competent person MUST be registerd with CORGI, I wish this wasnt and believe that now CORGI are moving in on the plumbing and ventillation industry their monopoly MUST be ended.