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Is the Builder right or am I right to question

Discussion in 'Building' started by 85NrthEssex, 16 Apr 2021.

  1. 85NrthEssex

    85NrthEssex

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    Let me set the scene for you all to start off with we have a 3bed detached house downstairs with a front lounge and back dinning room both are 5m in width.

    We planned to get a builder in to open both lounges up into one room. We were recommended a local builder by a lot of friends. He came around had a look and said the wall is load bearing and the joists front and back rest on the wall so it would require a structural engineer to do a calculation of which he would sort out. So a structual engineer came around and took some measurements and looked at walls and stuff then went away and sorted calculations for the beam. We also asked for the beam to be flush in the ceiling. Since then the builder has been back and gone over the work with us before he starts and i was curious so asked him a few questions about the works and this is where i have questions:

    I asked when he takes the wall out what will the joists that are currently sitting on the wall rest on?his response was that the steel will have a timber attached to it and the joists will then be cut and attached to the beam with hangers. (Seemed a decent answer and sounded logical)correct?

    i asked what will the beam sit on either side? His reponse was the engineer has given requirements for lintel padstones to be put in the wall (again a decent answer)correct?

    i then asked what will support the wall above whilst he is installing the beam within the ceiling?his response was he will put acro props up either side on the ceiling joists downstairs and support from below.

    I asked what will stop the wall from falling directly down when he is removing the wall below seemed a sensible question to which he got funny and said why do i ask so many questions? Am i right is he not doing this correctly as he wont explain anything to me?what will support the wall above whilst he removes the wall below?

    thanks in advance
     
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    A reasonable question he should have answered - Obviously, the acro props!
     
  4. noseall

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    In this instance needles will be used at skirting board level in the rooms above (either side of the wall).
     
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    needles...




     
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    Your not wrong to ask questions,

    He answered them logically, I think he may have got a bit "funny" as either he felt like you didn't trust him,
     
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    Lol thanks for all the replys so far. I mean its not a cheap job so i thought i was entitled to ask him questions .
     
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    Correct, but don't get too needy.
     
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    Sounds like he's going to do a proper job-ask him if he's looking after building regs or is he expecting you to put the notice in?
     
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    noseall, do you know anyone who has used these? Saw them in Pro Builder last year.
    Sneedle Props ltd | Propping | Hook Hampshire
     
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    Interesting concept, but what advantage would these have over Strongboys?
     
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    Never used them myself Tony, but strongboys only prop part of a cavity wall. Needles need to go right through the wall to take the cavity wall.
    The idea of these is that you drill part way through the inner skin only.
    This saves any damage to the internal tiles, moving bath etc.
    You can see from noseall's photo the holes in the inner skin.
     
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    That's an interesting idea.

    I see they can be linked with diagonals for lateral stability.

    £240+vat to hire a set of 4

    My concern would be, if the wall cracks, it will need replastering so would there be much benefit over punching a hole through - I guess so if it's a tiled bathroom.
     
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    Why don't they make the middle, vertical section adjustable for length.
     
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