Is this enough space for my downlighters

[Kusykinng]

Hi I would like to put downlighters in my hallway, the downstairs has a 14cm gap from ceiling but upstairs is a flat roof and has only a space of 11-12cm. The downlights i would like to use say i need a gap of 14cm above.

There is no insulation in the ceiling so lots of air space and its concrete above, am i going to be ok to install them with this space?

Thanks

 

[b13kal]

Hi

You can get away with it only if you use LED

It's the heat that's the issue

 

[Kusykinng]

thanks for he reply,

So you don't think the fact that there is no insulation in the ceiling space will allow the heat to be dispensed enough for it to be safe?

LED abit pricey (but not if my saftey is at risk)?

Thanks again

 

[b13kal]

The issue is combustible products.

What if you use a fire Hood with non fire rated down lights?

Have a look at 12v as an option ? They might hv less space clearance

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

If the manufacturers instruction(MI) say 14cm space above the fitting is required, I would say comply to that, if you cannot, then purchase a product that you can install and be compliant.
Can you either link or upload the MI?

 

[Kusykinng]

Cant download the MI but heres a link to model in question

http://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-fixed...10/36324#product_additional_details_container

 

[Kusykinng]

also can i put led lights into these?

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

After these lights are fitted, do you think that the level of fire resistance offered to the building's structure, would have been compromised?

 

[Kusykinng]

I'm not quite sure what you mean, sorry explain what you mean?

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Fire integrity of ceiling being compromised. Building regulation approved document B.
If a fire separating element is to be effective, then every joint, or imperfection of fit, or opening to allow services to pass through the element, should be adequately protected by sealing or fire stopping so that the fire resistance of the element is not impaired.

By cutting holes in to the ceiling this has now become compromised as the fittings are not fire rated.

 

[Kusykinng]

Ok thanks for your help on that I understand where your coming from.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Ok thanks for your help on that I understand where your coming from.

I strongly suggest when choosing downlights that you purchase fire rated ones, they are not required in all cases but in my opinion it is good practice to do so.

http://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/fire-rated-downlights/cat5170036

And yes in most cases LED lamps can be fitted to downlights whether they are GU10 or MR16

 

[b13kal]

Hi everyone

My suggestion is

http://www.screwfix.com/p/robus-adjustable-round-mains-voltage-downlight-brushed-chrome-240v/59255

With

http://www.screwfix.com/p/halolite-economy-downlight-fire-hood-150mm/70589

Or

http://www.screwfix.com/p/luno-silver-effect-single-spotlight/23780

 

[Iggifer]

Those Robus fittings are actually ok. The lamps they come with are pretty rubbish but the fitting itself is ok.

I'd rather pay less and supply my own lamp, but I guess they're for conveniece

 

[Kusykinng]

Thanks everyone for all the great advice, I've decided to install led lights into my current fittings. Managed to find some lamps for only £2.69 for 1.8w = 30w, hopefully this should be bright enough. Thought about dropping the ceiling but this option is cost effective and will also be much cheaper on the electric bill. Unfortunately money in this case really is a massive consideration in my choice. But I think this is the best all round solution. I noticed there were a few websites with some very cheap bulbs imported from china, namely total selling?? I think?? After a little research there were some pretty dodgy reviews on the service and products so please be aware if anyone is reading this.