J D Vance. Munich speech.

[Notch7]

Trump "negotiators" have effectively ruled that out.

Unfortunately it’s not really a negotiation when only one side is in the negotiation.

All it boils down to is Trump ending USA support for Ukraine, leaving 3 options

1) Ukraine continue fighting until they run out of money and equipment

2) or Ukraine surrender now

3) or Europe takes up the slack.


Trump has effectively given all the negotiating power to his best buddy Vlad.
It’s disgusting behaviour
Only a complete **** would do that

 

[noseall]

What don’t you understand. Ukraine are not in NATO. America is. We and other EU countries are funding this war in fear it could escalate into something bigger. Well it already is escalating without us going over there.

Waffle. You still have made no sense of your earlier blarney, just more deflective, non-sensical waffle.


What you said two pages ago is that we should keep out of the war, because the UK is a NATO member whilst Ukraine isn't. So why is the USA (another NATO member) so heavily involved? And why are they in the talks process yet Ukraine isn't? What the actual fúck!

 

[MNW67]

You get a lot for $500bn!

In fact, is anyone clear what Trump is offering in return for the $500bn of minerals he is asking Ukraine for?

 

[opps]

Should he comment on every defamation case throughout the world simply because he advocates free speech. I suspect if the band member had left it at 'facist' he might have got away with it but adding 'piece of ***t' to the insult must surely test the legal boundaries of free speech.

I don't know about Italian law, but over here, you need to demonstrate that the slanderous term resulted in a loss of income. I think that, under UK law, it would need to be proven that calling someone faeces resulted in other people genuinely believing that the person was indeed made out of poo and that it harmed them financially. How likely is that?

Under UK law, I believe that the comments would be covered under "fair comment". Again, I know little about the country that was previously happy to be ruled by a far right dictator.

JD was complaining about "free speech" rights. Is maligning a PM, or president, not covered by free speech? Were I an American and I called Trump a nazi, should I end in court?

Or is free speech the reserve of MAGA types?

 

[opps]

What don’t you understand. Ukraine are not in NATO. America is. We and other EU countries are funding this war in fear it could escalate into something bigger. Well it already is escalating without us going over there.

We, and America, promised to defend Ukraine in return for decommissioning their stockpile of nuclear warheads following the collapse of the USSR. Should we not stick to our commitments?

 

[transam]

I assume that trump is aware that poo tin and the mad mullers have some type of treaty / pact or some other grubby agreement ?? And that he is also brown nosing the Chinese ???

Are there not Russian troops / forces in Venezuela ???

Tbh he probably does not

 

[blup]

What does Starmer hope to achieve by sending British troops to Ukraine.

I answered that before, it was a piece of spin designed to make him sound at the centre of the action, but only meant to happen after peace not in war. It actually pi**ed off Germany and Poland, so he backtracked. We won't be sending peace keepers unless or until Russsia is defeated or forced into compromising beyond their current position of no nato involvement.

The Ukrainian army has shown itself to be formidable and well led, the Ukrainians have fought bravely and died in large numbers.

Only 11% of Gen Z's said they would fight for their (our) country, and it would appear Mr Z has similar recruitment problems with the young.

 

[blup]

Should he comment on every defamation case throughout the world simply because he advocates free speech. I suspect if the band member had left it at 'facist' he might have got away with it but adding 'piece of ***t' to the insult must surely test the legal boundaries of free speech.

That's the starting point for MA GA free speech

 

[Highway Man]

Waffle. You still have made no sense of your earlier blarney, just more deflective, non-sensical waffle.


What you said two pages ago is that we should keep out of the war, because the UK is a NATO member whilst Ukraine isn't. So why is the USA (another NATO member) so heavily involved? And why are they in the talks process yet Ukraine isn't? What the actual fúck!

OMG calm your self down luv. Don't know why your having a go at me, I didnt start this war.

 

[Highway Man]

We, and America, promised to defend Ukraine in return for decommissioning their stockpile of nuclear warheads following the collapse of the USSR. Should we not stick to our commitments?

Dunno, should we?

 

[transam]

Well cutting to the chase ?? On the world stage

It’s chaos being waged by a chaotic government

The US

And in charge of this chaos is Trump

It’s like some incoherent ? Lunatic has escaped from some lunatic asylum and become president

Jeez Kin wept

 

[Highway Man]

Well cutting to the chase ?? On the world stage

It’s chaos being waged by a chaotic government

The US

And in charge of this chaos is Trump

It’s like some incoherent ? Lunatic has escaped from some lunatic asylum and become president

Jeez Kin wept

TBH I don't mind him, he speaks a lot of sense sometimes, other times you could take him as insane. Lets see what he does with this war first before calling him. I think he just might pull this off.

 

[fillyboy]

I don't know about Italian law, but over here, you need to demonstrate that the slanderous term resulted in a loss of income. I think that, under UK law, it would need to be proven that calling someone faeces resulted in other people genuinely believing that the person was indeed made out of poo and that it harmed them financially. How likely is that?

It didn't happen over here.

MSN

 

[transam]

TBH I don't mind him, he speaks a lot of sense sometimes, other times you could take him as insane. Lets see what he does with this war first before calling him. I think he just might pull this off.

I would not neccrssrily disagree with some of it

But the bloke is unable to seperate fact from fiction or engage his mouth and brain in public

Blimey trumps legacy could be he will be the only US president in history removed from
Office due to be mentally unstable bordering on lunacy

 

[Highway Man]

I would not neccrssrily disagree with some of it

But the bloke is unable to seperate fact from fiction or engage his mouth and brain in public

Blimey trumps legacy could be he will be the only US president in history removed from
Office due to be mentally unstable bordering on lunacy

I would say that is possible. His wife always looks as though she is cringing when he is talking.