Kitchen - going from gas to Electric. HELP.

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hi there, 1st post so apologies if this is already covered umpteen times already.
The wife has decided to fit a new kitchen. I got home on Friday to find the gas engineer had been in to cap off the oven and hob in preparation for a pile of boxes sitting in front of me. So here goes:
- The fridge - American
- integrated coffee machine
- integrated microwave

I believe these will all be ok from the sockets the old one ran off (standard ones).

- New double oven (hotpoint DD2 540 IX) 4400w - 4800w
http://www.hotpoint.ie/hotpoint/_pdf/manuals/19514598700_GB.pdf

- New induction hob (hotpoint CIA 640 C) 7200w
http://www.hotpoint.co.uk/appliance...wstyle-cia-640-c-induction-hob-black/F093326/

What's the deal with the wiring of these?

1. Can I plug them in to a socket? Unlikely.

2. Do thy both need they're own supply from them main board?

3. Can I run them off one dedicated supply from the main board (together)? They will be approx 1m or less apart.

4. Is there any special cable that I need for it? If so, has anyone got any links to screwfix or the like?

5. Have I underestimated the fridge, coffee, m/wave?

Thanks in advance.
 
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  1. No.
  2. No.
  3. Yes.
  4. A new circuit really should be installed by an electrician.
  5. Probably not, but what are they rated at?
 
I haven't looked into the rating of those as I never thought it would be an issue. The oven and job had ratings on the exterior of the box, but the rest didn't....

I'll maybe contact my local electrician and get him to have a look at the oven / job

Thanks for the help
 
** job should be replaced with hob....
Spell check on the phone will cause all sorts of issues. Lol
 
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1. Can I plug them in to a socket? Unlikely.
Not a standard 13A oven takes around 20A so not even a German 16A socket would cover that.
2. Do thy both need they're own supply from them main board?
Need no, although if your starting from scratch with no cable already installed it may be a good idea.
3. Can I run them off one dedicated supply from the main board (together)? They will be approx 1m or less apart.
Yes there are special twin cooker outlet boxes.
4. Is there any special cable that I need for it? If so, has anyone got any links to screwfix or the like?
Yes likely 10 mm² if feeding both off same cable and 6 mm² if two separate cables although could use 4 mm² or even 2.5 mm² for oven, it depends on the route used, there is not a single answer to this question.
5. Have I underestimated the fridge, coffee, m/wave?
Not likely in the main they will all simply plug in, however there seems to be an exception to every rule, but can't see any problem here.

The big problem with new wiring is it needs to comply with current regulations, where existing wiring only has to comply with regulations current when it was fitted. The major change is since 2008 nearly every circuit needs RCD protection, you may already have this, or you may need to add it for new cables. There are many ways to add RCD protection and it may be that running a dedicated kitchen supply with it's own consumer unit is best way, or it could be already there or maybe simply fitting a RCBO in consumer unit will do the job. The last thing you want is to do a load of work only to find there was a better way. Since it seems likely you will need an electrician to install cooking circuits (LABC charges will likely mean cheaper using an electrician than DIY) I would get the electrician first and see what he says. It may transpire all you need is already installed. My father-in-law uses gas, but I know the cables for electric are already installed. The original cooker isolator was replaced with a double socket, but all it needs is for it to be swapped back.
 
It is possible that there is a 'cooker' circuit already in place and either not being used or has had sockets fitted to it for the gas appliances.
 
I'll get an electrician to check it all. You may very well be right, as there is a fuse on the board marked cooker/porch. All that's in the porch is a light.
Could be a quick win.
Cheers
 

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