Your thought processes restrict you to binary understanding of issues.
I guess adult discussion where nuance and detail are involved, just arent for you.
Knife Crime
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I guess adult discussion where nuance and detail are involved, just arent for you.
When I was 11 I got into a LOT of trouble by a local police officer for carrying a knife.
I was the most innocent, big-eared, scruffy 11-year-old going and the reason I was carrying a knife (a small but sharp knife) was because I had used it to open the battery compartment on a remote-controlled car. It used a small screw and I didn't own a screwdriver. I just put it in my pocket because I didn't want my dad to see me putting it back.
I don't know the solution but banning the possession of knives in public bar for professionals can't be the answer can it?
The cause of it (in my opinion) is the increasing popularity of being in a gang and the growth of populations who do not feel part of the community they live in.
I was the most innocent, big-eared, scruffy 11-year-old going and the reason I was carrying a knife (a small but sharp knife) was because I had used it to open the battery compartment on a remote-controlled car. It used a small screw and I didn't own a screwdriver. I just put it in my pocket because I didn't want my dad to see me putting it back.
I don't know the solution but banning the possession of knives in public bar for professionals can't be the answer can it?
The cause of it (in my opinion) is the increasing popularity of being in a gang and the growth of populations who do not feel part of the community they live in.
We do know what will work.
But right wing governments just play the blame game.
Here are their favorites:
Solution to crime, harsher sentences
Solution to austerity: blame it on immigrants
Solution to inequality: blame it on 'benefit scrounger', so the public dont twig its the rich sucking the money out not the poor.
Oh and have a press that peddles the lies. Prople like ihavenobrains suck it up like a sponge and vent their bile on here.
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So come on then smart ar5e, give us your well thought out and infallible solution. You really are a nasty piece of work.
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What? If you know, tell us and the government, but no, instead of that you deride anyone who says anything different to your way of thinking (whatever that is as you never come up with anything constructive). You're a pathetic little loner with no love given to you, so you come on here to make yourself feel better, but you just can't see that.
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You can carry a non locking pen knife that has a blade of 3 inches or less without reason.
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I thought folding knives where still legal (not that i carry one!). Although scouts are told now not to carry them, as too risky.
It's a bit like the gun argument in America - people say "but guns used in self defence are OK". As always, the problem is not with sensible law abiding citizens, but with people intent on criminal activity.
The only way to reduce knife crime in the UK is to put gangs out of business. We could try to imprison every drug user and every drug dealer, but we'll quickly run out of money, and the problem won't go away. America tried a war on drugs, it failed.
Legalising cannabis will hit gang revenue hard. Sell it through pharmacies, tax it, use the tax money to improve youth services.
Legalise cannabis and tax it, sounds dead easy but it isn't only cannabis that is the problem.
What about heroin, cocaine, skunk (and a host of prescription drugs which are already legal) .
There is a fundamental misunderstanding about the nature of the problem.
It isn't about a persons right to indulge in drug use, it is about giving anyone the right to indulge in the abuse of drugs.
There should be zero tolerance for anyone who take drugs and not just for dealers.
No demand means no incentive to deal in drugs.
Celebrities who glamorise drug abuse should be penalised.
He doesn't have one.
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No, it's not the whole problem, but it is a big problem. And it's all about marketing - drug dealers are excellent salesmen.
e.g. if somebody wants some cannabis, the only way to get it is to deal with a drug gang (or try growing it without being caught, but ignore that).
they will soon develop a relationship with a drug dealer, as they will likely see them every week. The dealer will then push other drugs that are more lucrative on to them - they'll do the old "out of cannabis, but can offer this at a big discount for you this week" trick. That works. Soon a person is into the hard drugs. Their lives start to fall apart at this point.
Alternative reality: somebody wants some cannabis, so they go to their pharmacy and buy it through a prescription based system giving their name and address, linked to GP records. They will never have anything else pushed on them, and if they start using more, advice can be given at the point of sale and GP records updated.
I follow the local police social media pages and much of what they confiscate from dealers is cannabis. It is a drug that many new dealers deal before dealing the harder drugs.
Legalising it won't make drug crime vanish, but it will hit the gangs so hard that they will no longer have such a large territory that they need to control, many dealers will effectively go out of business and will have to take up some honest work instead. Might all sound a bit like a fantasy, but it does work (help) in other countries, so no reason why it wouldn't work here too.
And it really is not very different from prohibition in America - banning alcohol led to a massive growth in organised crime - people we're already addicted to that drug so would happily break the new law to get hold of it.
Some further reading
https://www.adamsmith.org/research/...uce-crime-protect-children-and-improve-safety
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Currently, that is the law. But the government is not funding any of the organisations that are needed to action this zero tolerance attitude. The result is rising crime!
Much of the violence is around the cocaine, crack, skunk trade. Keep that all illegal, let the police handle that rather than chasing the petty pot dealers.
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There is currently 100% tolerance of drug use by this so-called conservative government, but as with so many crimes, the laws to deal with it already exist. The "organisations that are needed to action this zero tolerance attitude" already exist; they are the police, the courts and the prisons. Currently these organisations are doing the wrong things. We don't need more police or more laws or more money, we just need these existing authorities to enforce the existing laws and to stop being nice to criminals.
The size of the drug problem in Britain is massive, and this is off-putting to many, and has led to an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude; but the scale of the crime needn't be a problem - not everybody needs to be arrested. What is needed is consistent punishment. Drug takers need a cast-iron guarantee of the inevitability that if caught they will be jailed / fined / banned from driving / banned from international travel etc etc. No exceptions - this method worked for drink-driving. Drink driving is socially unacceptable nowadays, and if caught over the limit you will be definitely punished - very few people get away with it.
Coke-head Gove, for example.
Tougher sentences is not a deterrent.
What part of that do you not understand?
And please dont try suggesting that reducing sentences reduces crime, you tried that already.
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