Kwasi Kwarteng

[diy_fun_uk]

Two years is a long way away in politics

Agreed, however I'm confident in my prediction. Sometimes, especially in (democratic) politics, when a party has been in power for a relatively long period of time, unless they're still knocking it out the park on a consistent basis, the electorate seek change.

Regardless of the macro and micro economic reasons behind the current f**k up within the UK, the electorate will increasingly seek that change and, if for no other reason, want to 'give Labour a chance.'

I would even go as far as to say Labour will end up with a significant majority come next GE.

 

[ellal]

So they've conspired between (liblabcon scotsnats) them to get us back under the auspices of the eu because the electorate are left with no other choice.

But but but...

Didn't brexiteers tell us that the electorate always has the choice?

Unless of course it goes against them...

Another EU referendum will happen before the end of the decade, because there is no other other way of turning around the brexitanic before it sinks without trace!

 

[gant]

I think if mps and the civil servants haven't their heart in it (saves working for a living if you can get the eu to make the rules) then it's very hard to push against given they call the shots.

 

[motorbiking]

Agreed, however I'm confident in my prediction. Sometimes, especially in (democratic) politics, when a party has been in power for a relatively long period of time, unless they're still knocking it out the park on a consistent basis, the electorate seek change.

Regardless of the macro and micro economic reasons behind the current f**k up within the UK, the electorate will increasingly seek that change and, if for no other reason, want to 'give Labour a chance.'

I would even go as far as to say Labour will end up with a significant majority come next GE.

It’s not a hugely logical conclusion given their huge lead is still fairly new.

Truss was always going to have to fill big shoes, but with a fear of a genuine labour government her party will rally round.

And now Jeremy hunt takes the role.

 

[gant]

Now he is a remainer on steroids.

 

[Notch7]

It’s not a hugely logical conclusion given their huge lead is still fairly new.

Truss was always going to have to fill big shoes, but with a fear of a genuine labour government her party will rally round.

And now Jeremy hunt takes the role.

I agree, things can change fast in politics.

And despite the current polls, Labour will struggle to get the numbers, mostly due to losing Scotland to the SNP.


but Conservatives have 3 major negatives:

the red wall that ”lent” votes, most will “unlend”.
Truss administration will now get all the blame for mortgages rises
Truss administration have broken the belief “Conservatives are safe pair of hands with economy”

 

[diy_fun_uk]

It’s not a hugely logical conclusion given their huge lead is still fairly new.

Truss was always going to have to fill big shoes, but with a fear of a genuine labour government her party will rally round.

And now Jeremy hunt takes the role.

Almost irrelevant when it comes to where the electorate put their X in the ballot box ...

 

[Notch7]

Almost irrelevant when it comes to where the electorate put their X in the ballot box ...

I think Motorbiking was talking about the party fearing losing tomLabour rather than the public.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I agree, things can change fast in politics.

And despite the current polls, Labour will struggle to get the numbers, mostly due to losing Scotland to the SNP.


but Conservatives have 3 major negatives:

the red wall that ”lent” votes, most will “unlend”.
Truss administration will now get all the blame for mortgages rises
Truss administration have broken the belief “Conservatives are safe pair of hands with economy”

It's not impossible some SNP voters (the more balanced ones!) will lend their vote to Labour if it helps removes the UK tory government.

 

[gant]

A coalition and they string them along with a promise of a referendum.

 

[Notch7]

It's not impossible some SNP voters (the more balanced ones!) will lend their vote to Labour if it helps removes the UK tory government.

True, TBH I’m not really in touch with Scottish politics.

I do know Tories are hated in Scotland and Sturgeon plays on that for her independence argument, but if Labour win, the independence will lose some of its purpose.

 

[gant]

Why would the scots nats give up their reason for being?

 

[Mottie]

Another EU referendum will happen before the end of the decade, because there is no other other way of turning around the brexitanic before it sinks without trace!

Lol. The EU won’t be around in its present form at the end of the decade!

 

[diy_fun_uk]

True, TBH I’m not really in touch with Scottish politics.

I do know Tories are hated in Scotland and Sturgeon plays on that for her independence argument, but if Labour win, the independence will lose some of its purpose.

2021 Scottish election results:

SNP: 2,385,788 (44%)
Conservative: 1,229,657 (22.7%)
Labour: 1,070,211 (19.8%)
Liberal Democrat: 324,957 (6%)
Green: 253,227 (4.7%)
Other: 153,735 (2.8%)

Please, people of England, don't be fooled by the SNP rhetoric. Yes they received a significant % of the vote in 2021 and have for a number of years, however as you can see, Conservative and Labour do still have support up here.

Every time you hear anyone from the SNP say 'on behalf of the people of Scotland ...' and/or 'the people of Scotland have given us a mandate ...' please remember they don't speak for all of us, not by any means when you assess the above numbers.

SNP: 44% of the vote
Conservative & Labour: 42.5% of the vote

 

[festive]

Idiotic upping Corporation tax to 25% fck off. So thats company adding this onto their overheads we all pay more. People will just avoid it more or be more 'efficient'. Even Hunt wanted corporation tax cut.

More tax more tax.. this country is a shambles. We can't support the bums and the increasing daily arrivals by boat.