Laminate without underlay

[johnny2007]

Hi everyone, this got me puzzled.
Had a look at my friend's new place and they have glue on tiles in kitchen, perfectly flat and solid.
They want laminate and the lounge floor level is higher than the kitchen, so i'm leaving the tiles where they are and do the laminate on top.
However they don't want underlay because they don't like the bouncy feel.
Can i lay laminate without underlay?
Always used underlay, so don't know.
Surface is perfectly flat.

 

[foxhole]

Underlay creates no bounce , they are confused .

 

[dazlight]

What fox said. Should be no bounce if subfloor is flat.

 

[johnny2007]

That's what I thought.
They said that in their previous home they felt a bounce.
They had used the 5mm wickes green underlay slabs apparently.
I used them and found no noticeable bounce.
Mind you, he is a 20 stone man and she's not a ballerina herself.
Maybe that's the problem.
One thought, they want to add a 1000 cabinet and worktop in an empty space, would that be a problem once all weight of pots and pans is added to the cabinet if i run the laminate all the way?
It would be easier.

 

[Mottie]

What about that cheap 2mm underlay for laminate that comes on a roll? This stuff: https://www.carpet-underlay-shop.co.uk/products/2mm-white-underlay-for-wood-or-laminate-flooring

 

[johnny2007]

I think i'll go for that

 

[foxhole]

That's what I thought.
They said that in their previous home they felt a bounce.
They had used the 5mm wickes green underlay slabs apparently.
I used them and found no noticeable bounce.
Mind you, he is a 20 stone man and she's not a ballerina herself.
Maybe that's the problem.
One thought, they want to add a 1000 cabinet and worktop in an empty space, would that be a problem once all weight of pots and pans is added to the cabinet if i run the laminate all the way?
It would be easier.

They are not in their previous home so have an level floor now ?
Laminate only runs the kitchen unit legs not under it .

 

[Notch7]

If they want a solid feel then an acoustic underlay should be used.

Laminate on tiles with no underlay is a bad idea.

 

[johnny2007]

They are not in their previous home so have an level floor now ?
Laminate only runs the kitchen unit legs not under it .

I know, but that would mean more work for me and/or a reschedule of things.

 

[johnny2007]

If they want a solid feel then an acoustic underlay should be used.

Laminate on tiles with no underlay is a bad idea.

They're glue-on tiles, so more similar to vinyl than ceramic tiles.

 

[foxhole]

I know, but that would mean more work for me and/or a reschedule of things.

Why ?

 

[johnny2007]

Because the floor is already there and the units to be added are not.
So I either have to reschedule the job or lay the laminate and then the unit and worktop when they arrive.

 

[foxhole]

Because the floor is already there and the units to be added are not.
So I either have to reschedule the job or lay the laminate and then the unit and worktop when they arrive.

So lay laminate and then units .

 

[johnny2007]

That's what I wanted to do, but they put a doubt in my mind that the underlay would make the units bounce and worktop unstable.
I don't think so as I will bolt the units to the wall anyway as usual and then after a week or so usage i could check on the legs if they need adjusting if there's any sinking.

 

[SFK]

Johnny
I am not clear on your response.

Are you planning on
1) putting laminate all the way under where units will be, and then later resting the legs of the units on the laminate?
or
2) stopping laminate before where the legs of the units will be, and later resting the legs of the units on the old tiled floor?

I ask as this was not clear and Laminate must be allowed to move (float) and so option 1 is not to be used.

SFK