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Landlords Socket Lock
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Depends on how many differents there are, how readily obtainable etc.
e.g. a socket in a locked cupboard - the door could have a lock for which you simply cannot just walk into a shop and get a key without authorisation, even if you have got one to copy. But what's the cost of that compared to the value of stolen electricity?
e.g. a socket in a locked cupboard - the door could have a lock for which you simply cannot just walk into a shop and get a key without authorisation, even if you have got one to copy. But what's the cost of that compared to the value of stolen electricity?
I would have unplugged it, and cut through the flex where it entered the flat.
And then denied all knowledge. How on earth could the tenant have had an extension lead plugged in there, as that would mean he was stealing electricity. He must have been mistaken.
A CCTV camera, or even a dummy, mounted conspicuously and pointing at the socket might be enough to deter many.
Kind Regards, John
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Depends on lengths people will go to. I was asked to remove a socket half way up the wall in a house which the new owners did not want. They had not moved in so simply switched off main isolator. With a neon screwdriver by luck I started to remove the socket only to find the neon lit. I then got test meters OK should have tested for dead but never even thought of a supply still being there with main isolator off.
It transpired some previous owner had been given next doors keys in case of emergency when on holiday. The next door and drilled a hole from back of next doors socket straight into their living room and fitted a socket at that point which since houses staggered up the hill ended up half way up the wall.
No one knew which previous owner had done it there had been a few so it was just simply remove it. Be it from street lamp or neighbours house there are hundreds of stories about stealing power.
When next door to me lost power due to a fault on that phase we ran an extension lead to their freezer. I am sure some one could have taken pictures and claimed they were stealing but that was not the case.
But tenants do seem to have a different attitude to home owners, opening a window rather than turn heating down for example, where heating is communal. When my loo started to leak I lifted lid and adjusted the screw on ball cock I was really surprised with rental on how they called a plumber for such a simple adjustment. Yet they also seem to help each other more than on a private estate. It's not all bad.
It may seem strange but the tenant may not even see it as theft. I have seen the same at work where stealing stuff is seen as a perk not theft. The demise of the forecourt trading stamp system was after a court ruled going to a more expensive filling station in order to get green shield stamps was theft all stamps should have been given to the employer.
So what is required to stop the theft is dependent on if they consider it mortally wrong.
Fuel theft is becoming a big problem. A local woodland owner was complaining how he was doing the environment friendly practice of leaving so much wood to rot to re-vitalise the woodland. But some one was stealing this wood from the woodland. If they are caught because it's a SSSI woodland there is a fine of £20,000 but it does not seem to deter them.
It transpired some previous owner had been given next doors keys in case of emergency when on holiday. The next door and drilled a hole from back of next doors socket straight into their living room and fitted a socket at that point which since houses staggered up the hill ended up half way up the wall.
No one knew which previous owner had done it there had been a few so it was just simply remove it. Be it from street lamp or neighbours house there are hundreds of stories about stealing power.
When next door to me lost power due to a fault on that phase we ran an extension lead to their freezer. I am sure some one could have taken pictures and claimed they were stealing but that was not the case.
But tenants do seem to have a different attitude to home owners, opening a window rather than turn heating down for example, where heating is communal. When my loo started to leak I lifted lid and adjusted the screw on ball cock I was really surprised with rental on how they called a plumber for such a simple adjustment. Yet they also seem to help each other more than on a private estate. It's not all bad.
It may seem strange but the tenant may not even see it as theft. I have seen the same at work where stealing stuff is seen as a perk not theft. The demise of the forecourt trading stamp system was after a court ruled going to a more expensive filling station in order to get green shield stamps was theft all stamps should have been given to the employer.
So what is required to stop the theft is dependent on if they consider it mortally wrong.
Fuel theft is becoming a big problem. A local woodland owner was complaining how he was doing the environment friendly practice of leaving so much wood to rot to re-vitalise the woodland. But some one was stealing this wood from the woodland. If they are caught because it's a SSSI woodland there is a fine of £20,000 but it does not seem to deter them.
What if a large fine was actually imposed? I bet £20K is the maximum, and it is never seen?
What if the penalty was 20 years in prison?
What if the penalty was forfeiture of every single asset owned by them and every close family member, and permanent removal of all entitlement to benefits for them and ditto?
What if the penalty was 20 years in prison?
What if the penalty was forfeiture of every single asset owned by them and every close family member, and permanent removal of all entitlement to benefits for them and ditto?
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I think the large fine is the problem. At £50 likely they would get reported and taken to court but at even £1000 people feel sorry for the thieves and so they get away with it.
People need to grow some cojones.
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