larger extensions without planning permission.

Not at the back. No one cares .... except the two neighbours.
I can see the backs of 5 houses from the rear of my house and the backs of at least 2 from the front. I think it is a mistake not to care about the appearance of building extensions wherever they are.
 
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I can see the backs of 5 houses from the rear of my house and the backs of at least 2 from the front. I think it is a mistake not to care about the appearance of building extensions wherever they are.
Correct. Some of the tat you see thrown up as rear extensions and...god forbid.. LOFTIES :cry: are unforgivable. I just love how inventive some "builders" can be with an SVP and the wonderful availability of above ground fittings.

Why should the aesthetic merits of a home be based upon the front elevation only. Don't people like to spend quality time in their back gardens? I'm sure Woody's koi carp like to have a nice view too.
 
Are there any rules/rights regarding appeals if a PP application which would have been allowed had PD not been removed is rejected?
 
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Are there any rules/rights regarding appeals if a PP application which would have been allowed had PD not been removed is rejected?
If I understand what you are saying there will be the usual right of appeal against refusal of a planning application. You can't appeal against removal of PD rights as far as I know.
 
I can see the backs of 5 houses from the rear of my house and the backs of at least 2 from the front. I think it is a mistake not to care about the appearance of building extensions wherever they are.

I know what you mean. I've complained about my 65 year old neighbour's underwear strung across the garden opposite in full view. It wouldn't be so bad if she was 25.

Anyway, I've posted off some Leylandi saplings for you. (y)
 
You can't appeal against removal of PD rights as far as I know.
Certainly not after all these years.

No - I thought I vaguely remembered that if PD has been removed, and if therefore a PP application had to be made for something which would otherwise have been PD, then if that PP was refused there was something different about the appeal process.
 
Do keep up. The rule only applies if the refusal happened within 12 months of the notification that PD was being suspended - it's very unlikely that an LPA would be caught out by this.
 
Certainly not after all these years.
Which years, can't permitted development rights be removed under a Section 21 Agreement for an application that has just been submitted ?!
Many high-density modern estates have p.d. rights withdrawn so as to enable the LPA to ensure that open space on such estates doesn't get even more whittled down.
Yes , but they don't even have to be particularly high density as far as I recall on housing developments where the developer had to enter into a Section 21 Agreement ,seemed quite common.
 
I've complained about my 65 year old neighbour's underwear strung across the garden opposite in full view. It wouldn't be so bad if she was 25.

Anyway, I've posted off some Leylandi saplings for you.
One of my neighbours is about 25 and I've never seen her underwear , but you never know , so I won't be planting your Leylandi saplings but thanks all the same. (y)
 
Peeved off with the silly rules, i had to submit a 4.5m plan under full plan thinking rules will expire on 30th may only to find its being extended, to compensate i'm just gonna build to 5m.
 
Permitted developments rights have led to many thousands of pig ugly extensions.

The irony is that a homeowner can get an extension under pd but a much more attractive option under full planning would get rejected.

Not if the process runs correctly. In your example the planning decision should take account of what Permitted Development rights are in place and be judged only on it's impact beyond the impact that a PD compliant build would have. I'm sure what you describe does happen, but only because the Planning Committee aren't planning experts, I'd expect those sorts of decisions to be overturned on appeal where the issue is as clear-cut as you describe anyway.

The relaxation of the Permitted Development rules to allow these larger extensions does require a neighbourhood consultation to take place, that is the mechanism to ensure the aesthetics are acceptable to the neighbours.
 
In your example the planning decision should take account of what Permitted Development rights are in place and be judged only on it's impact beyond the impact that a PD compliant build would have.

In my (limited) experience they don't seem to apply that kind of common sense. Only last year I was haggling over percentages due to my apparent attempt at over-development of the green belt and the conversation I had with the planner went along the lines of:

"but I could build something much much bigger under PD, but it would all be ground floor, have a silly layout, and be a monstrosity"

to which they replied

"that's a completely different area of law - there's no overlap - we only deal in the context of the Town and Country Planning Act, not GPDO"
 
That's frustrating, because if it went to appeal it would be dealt with by someone that would take into account what Permitted Development allowed. They wouldn't take into account that you could build something bigger and uglier, but for example if you required planning because you wanted a pitched roof to match the main roof that was then over the height limit for PD, that would be a question of how much 'worse' is the higher roof and is that enough for a refusal.
 
'ensure the aesthetics are acceptable to the neighbours'

There's no obligation to notify anyone as to the proposed aesthetics under the Neighbour Consultation Scheme.
 

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