I leave the house about 07.30 and near ours is a major junction with 5way temp lights and a dual carriageway down to one lane and as you can expect it is absolute chaos and it takes forever getting through the lights but recently there appears to be a lot of learner drivers (or maybe me only just noticing them) navigating this chaos this early in the morning and today after waiting for a eternity for the lights to change with a L driver second in the q the lights changed -he stalled and before he got started again the lights went to red and the was over a mile of traffic behind me... I am a patient man but cannot these L drivers be prohibited until after 9am