liquid water softener

[Jupiter01]

Hi All,

Does anyone have any experience of these? I don't have the space to install the salt softeners and am hearing good things about these. I am looking at the following as a whole house solution which is also safe for drinking:
https://www.osmiowater.co.uk/acqua-brevetti-minidue-liquid-water-softener.html

Appreciate any feedback on the above model or anything else on this subject.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Twice the price of the Combimate. Does the same thing.

 

[Jupiter01]

Have you used it and do you have any feedback on its performance?

 

[Dan Robinson]

It's a phosphate scale reducer. It will be the same as the Combimate, albeit slightly easier to refill.

I have not used that unit you linked to because it is silly expensive.

 

[Jupiter01]

Sorry Dan. I meant, have you used combimate and have any feedback on its effectiveness?

 

[Dan Robinson]

Ah, I see. Yes e is it where space or budget don't allow a proper softener. No complaints so far.

Did one this morning as it happens.

 

[aptsys]

They're generally not very effective as water softeners. You can reduce limescale build up to an extent but your only affecting the KH of the water and it'll drift back to what is was before after it sits in the pipes for a few hours. GH can't really be changed with chemicals alone.

 

[Nige F]

If you google " polyphosphate water conditioners " you will find combimates and others

 

[Jupiter01]

Is it true that the combimate has little to no effect when water is stored in a mega flow before it is dispensed?
Is the Monrach Scaleout XP a better choice in this situation?

 

[aptsys]

Is it true that the combimate has little to no effect when water is stored in a mega flow before it is dispensed?
Is the Monrach Scaleout XP a better choice in this situation?

Apologies if my previous reply was a bit confusing - you can chemically treat the water in order to reduce limescale, but you cannot permanently soften water using chemicals.

The Monarch device looks interesting - actually could be suited to my own house as the water main enters in an inconvenient location for a water softener

 

[Jupiter01]

I entirely appreciate that combimate would not deliver the results of a water softener and instead it "conditions" the water. I've come across material which suggests that when the combimate is used in conjunction with a combi boiler where water is dispensed pretty rapidly after treatment, the benefits are much more readily realised whereas when it has water sitting in a very large megaflo (my situation) the benefits of the treatment are lost. I hope my point makes sense...

Is there validity to this? If so, where do I go next

 

[JohnD]

is the monarch a magic product which claims to reduce limescale by passing the water through a magnetic field?

They work in the same way that a copper bracelet cures rheumatism, or homeopathy cures disease.

(Explained here: http://www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com/

 

[aptsys]

is the monarch a magic product which claims to reduce limescale by passing the water through a magnetic field?

It uses a resin

 

[JohnD]

OK, thanks. Is it ion-exchange, like the Permutit resin?

 

[aptsys]

The blurb suggests the ions collect in the resin then are released when they collect into crystals that are too big, to be captured by the mechanical filter afterwards.

No idea if it works or not.