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Long throw lock greater than 70mm?

Discussion in 'In the Garden' started by Buenaventura Durruti, 7 Dec 2020.

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    Buenaventura Durruti

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    Hi,

    I've over engineered a gate that's about 100mm thick - does anyone make a long throw lock that might fit? I can't find one using Google.

    I don't want to use a bolt and padlock if I can avoid it,

    Thanks

    John
     
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    are you talking about the throw of the lock?

    Or the length of the key?

    The thickness of the door or gate is irrelevant to the throw required.

    For example

    LongKeyFB.png

    How secure do you want it to be?
     
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    And this is an example of a long throw lock, used when the gate is a very poor fit in the frame. The thickness of the door is irrelevant.

    LongThrowLock.png
     
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    Yes - that is the long throw lock - it is the simplest locking solution I can see for my gate, if not the simplest install.

    Surely the barrel or cylinder length will have an impact on the width of the gate it can accommodate? Unless I countersink the keyhole...
     
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    why are you asking for a long-throw lock, when your special need is for a long key?
     
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    Its the only gate lock type that appears in screwfix - other than various bolt types. It also comes in a variation that uses a thumb bolt on the inside. Have you a suggestion of a weatherproof gate lock perhaps, where I can get a long key cut?
     
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    I have a couple of long barrel euro locks somewhere in my "to sell on ebay" box.
    If you're interested I can have a rummage through and let you know the size.
     
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    Well not Fort Knox - enough to deter the casual opportunist. If I need extra while I am away I can always add a padlock
     
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    Sure - or point me at the ebay listing - would the be OK exposed to the elements - as I thought they were for uPVC doors
     
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    They can be fitted to anything, not only PVC.
    They also sell plates to hide butchered wood.
     
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    then you could fit a mortice lock with a (fairly) long key. It needs to be half the thickness of the door, plus the thickness of the lock. So about five inches plus the bow, which is manageable (presumably it will be on a hook by the back door, rather than on your key ring every day).

    A low cost one to deter casual opportunists is a Fire Brigade lock, such as an FB2
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/London-F...600067?hash=item362aff2c43:g:ICYAAOSwdb5d1mUj
    You can buy spare keys, including long ones like in my pic, very easily. If you want, you can buy an identical lock for your shed or side gate so you only need one key.

    On my gates I use a Chubb (now rebranded Union) mortice lock, these have brass and stainless working parts so corrosion resistant, with a heavyweight steel case. You can clean and lubricate them every ten years, and repaint round the keyhole where the key tends to scratch the paint off. In a thick gate like yours rain will not reach it, though it may get damp, and you need a large keyhole cover on each side to prevent the wind blowing through, carrying dirt and grit.

    They are expensive to buy new, but readily available used on ebay, and simple to dismantle and service. As you will be getting copy keys cut with the longer shaft, you don't need one with several keys (which sell for more).

    Off-the-shelf mortice locks sold in hardware stores are not of such high quality or as durable, and long key blanks may not be available.
     
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    Hmm - ill have a look - the key will be with me every - I keep my bike in the shed and that's my daily vehicle (after lockdown) - I want to unlock and lock the gate from either side and use the back door and garden as my main entry and exit.
    Not that its a massive issue to have a large key.
     
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