Magnacleans

[bengasman]

What are the chances of completely non magnetic particles in a system that has been flushed prior to installing a magnaclean?

 

[dreadnoughtheating]

I use the Adey as part of a powerflush. the customer can then see just how much magnetic sludge has been taken out of the system, and can (if interested) look at the state of the water in the tub to check for other debris.

I have retro-fitted them on supposedly new/clean systems and gone back a week later and surprised the owners at just how much it has attracted.

i am sure that I am not the only one here who uses a magnaclean, perhaps not quite how the manufactureres intended, but, I am satisfied with the build quality, particularly as I can buy one for £69.

DH

 

[bengasman]

It seems (let's hope so) they have solved the worst mechanical problems, and they do work.
I fitted the first one on a system that I first mainsflushed, then powerflushed with fx2, and finally mainsflushed again to get as much loosened debris out as possible. Even though none of the rads had cold spots, I got a fair bit of gunk out doing this.
The next day, the filter had already gathered some dirt. Not a lot, maybe a spoonful, but still. I am tempted to back and see what it has gathered in a few months.

 

[petit_pablo]

An advantage of the magnaclean is that it has a fair sized container. If you manage to fill that up in between services, I think it would be fair to say the system needs flushing.

Also a very handy size for dosing systems with inhibitor / cleaner.

 

[bengasman]

I have thought about that, but never tried. Can you actually get 1 litre in there?

 

[petit_pablo]

I have thought about that, but never tried. Can you actually get 1 litre in there?

As long as its not too far off vertical then you can get a bottle of fernox in it. Concentrate tubes easily fit!>

 

[Agile]

The magnaclean twintech has the filters built in to remove non magnetic dirt.

Would fitting a filter in the outlet not in a worst case senario cause a blockage and overheat the boiler etc? The magnet in the magnaclean is desighned to not block the system.

I have not examined the Twintech in much detail but a casual inspection shows a very coarse wire filter which if thats the only element would not seem able to trap smaller bits.

Its better to have a gauze fitted in the Magnaclean get blocked than have the plate or eye of the pump in the boiler become blocked and need an engineer visit.

The magnaclean can be cleaned out by many boiler users.

Tony

 

[Goldberg]

There weren't as many failures as that Agile character is making out.

And he's wrong about the Magnaclean not attracting rust - mine does it very successfully.

What a fraud - I don't believe he's even touched a TwinTech.

 

[Agile]

agreed, and they don't leak like those cheap bits of plastic from adey!

That was Mick who suggested they often leak.

I have fitted about three, one to replace a leaking one and seen perhaps seven or eight installed.

If the system is properly clean I dont see much need for them.

"Rust" is a magnetic particle Goldberg! Thats why its attracted to the magnet!

I did say that I have only casually locked at the twintech.

Tony

 

[Goldberg]

"Rust" is a magnetic particle Goldberg! Thats why its attracted to the magnet!

Please elaborate.

I did say that I have only casually locked at the twintech.

You didn't use the words "casually" or "looked". I don't believe that you've even touched one.

 

[Agile]

I have not examined the Twintech in much detail but a casual inspection shows a very coarse wire filter which if thats the only element would not seem able to trap smaller bits.

Tony

I would have thought a "casual inspection" is about the same as "casually looking".

I first saw one about a year ago but this year picked one up and commented on it to the salesman that the magnet is a lot smaller. the salesman said the magnet is the same size as in the other version which does not look possible.

Elaborate on rust? Rust is a common form of iron oxide which is somewhat magnetic so that its weakly attracted to a magnet.

To Ben a few posts back. Many power flushing uses chemicals like citric acid which dissolves metal oxides but does not have much effect on calcium compounds. I have seen systems become blocked by loosened calcium compounds after power flushing or acid based chemical treatment.

Tony

 

[Goldberg]

I would have thought a "casual inspection" is about the same as "casually looking".

Clearly you would be wrong to think that, and you've done neither.

I first saw one about a year ago but this year picked one up and commented on it to the salesman that the magnet is a lot smaller. the salesman said the magnet is the same size as in the other version which does not look possible.

Clearly one of you is lying.

Rust is a common form of iron oxide which is somewhat magnetic so that its weakly attracted to a magnet.

All forms of iron oxide are common.

Have you ever seen "rust" sticking to the magnet in a Magnaclean Pro?

 

[Agile]

I am sorry Goldberg, but I feel that your are intentionally wasting my time.

I like to give advice but thats obviously not what you want!

Tony

 

[Goldberg]

Have you ever seen "rust" sticking to the magnet in a Magnaclean Pro?

Is the question too difficult for you, or is it that you consider it unimportant?

 

[CortinaV8]

I had my system flushed before a boiler change last year, the plumber heated up the water and also had a bigger version of the magnaclean in the pipework also, I was amazed at the crap that the magnet\filters picked up.

I had a magnaclean fitted at the same time and again was very suprised at the stuff it picked up in the first few weeks, I've not touched it since, will probably get done at the next service.

I did have problems with it leaking, the plastic bowl fractured where the two halfs are fused together, twice. It's been fine for the last few months and luckily for the plumber/adey its in my garage so didnt cause any damage.

Mine is the twintec version.