more support for fatties..

my Nan was taken in last thursday because she wasn't eating..
she's got dementia..
doctors told my Dad that they couldn't do anything because she was too old....
organising a home for her..
 
sorry to hear that not nice.
well hide their money or they'll be wanting your dad to pay.
 
ColJack......dude at 28st, you NEED to lose weight or your life expectancy will be cut well short. I'd be amazed if you didn't already know this through your doctor and close family.

Whilst there may not be as much help from the NHS regarding dieting, there is far more help in the public domain regarding weight loss than there is smoking, a point well made by dextrous. :)

For you, its a must mate, i would never presume to tell you how/what to do with your life, but i've spent over 20 years in gyms and have a keen interest in exercise and nutrition. My little brother is also one of the highest qualified in his field for his age, and he is a referral instructor, whereas doctors send patients to him for nutritional and exercise advice, mainly for obese people. So as the saying goes, "between me and my brother....we know absolutely everything!" :D *tongue firmly planted in cheek*

I read and understood your reasons for people being obese, but they are all 'breakable' cycles. You just need the encouragement, motivation and will power to do it. And those can come from all around you, everything that you hold dear, and that hold you dear too.
 
Find a form of exercise that you enjoy. At the very least, find one that you can work into your current lifestyle with little effort. Something you can do while you watch TV, or switch your car for a bicycle if you can.

As someone who is also losing weight at the moment (18st at the start of the year, now down to 16st10) my experience is that there's all sorts of possible reasons, but the main, irrefutable one is that my calories in exceeded my calories out for far too long.

In my case the first step was giving up my rowing career and getting a nice office job. I went from training several times a day, doing insane amounts of exercise, down to sitting at a desk and working out 3 times a week. That was fine, I went from a super-trim and buff 14stone to a regular-trim and buff 14stone.

The next step was meeting a very nice girl in the office who's previous job was working as a chef. Somehow the gym seemed less fun compared with other available forms of exercise... unfortunately this exercise came with her excellent cooking, wine and dessert.

A few years of that and I got on the scales oneday and realised I was well over 16stone.

After things ended with her, I discovered takeaways. Yummy, and you don't need to cook! 2 years later and I was knocking on 18stone.

At that point I realised I needed a change, but realised that anything that is a vast lifestyle change is unlikely to take hold. So, I considered "WHAT WOULD WORK FOR ME?"

I realised that the gym doesn't work out for me because it's too far away, and I would end up not using it.
I don't enjoy jogging
I DO like watching telly!!!

So I bought a rowing machine. I got a water-driven one, which is quiet enough that I can plonk it in front of the telly and knock out a few k's between getting home and eating my dinner. It then rotates onto its end and sits in the corner of the room.

It works for me. I'm using it and losing weight and feeling a lot more energetic. The general lethargy is lifting.
 
kjacko said:
You just need the encouragement, motivation and will power to do it. And those can come from all around you, everything that you hold dear, and that hold you dear too.
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I can't speak for Jack, but I know that in my case the encouragement has to be positive.

I am a stubborn g*t, and if someone told me to lose weight I would be ordering up a curry within minutes. I can't stand being told what to do! :evil:

But, if that same person said "Wow, your diet and exercise is really starting to show!" that would encourage and motivate me.

Part of the problem is that people talk about losing weight. Weight is an arbitrary number. 10 stone can be dangerously underweight or dangerously obese depending on, amongst other things, the person's height.

It's like when you meet a tall woman of average build who believes she's fat because she has to wear size 14.

The important thing is to get in shape, be healthy and be happy!!! :D
 
Donkmeister said:
I am a stubborn g*t, and if someone told me to lose weight I would be ordering up a curry within minutes. I can't stand being told what to do! :evil:
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I would imagine that is a contributory cause to a lot of people being overweight. Which sadly is a ridiculous notion.

But stubborn-ness in your example only affects you...and in a negative way.

I'm stubborn, but my stubborn-ness stops short of stupidity.

Good for you that you got over it donk, or have at least found other methods of motivation, which as you say does need to be positive. Although a reality check and a kick up the backside once in while shouldn't do any harm to anyone! :)
 
Some good helpful posts on this subject. Do you feel inspired Coljack as I am sure we will all support you.

Little changes to your habits is a good start. :D
 
If you've got a decent doctor, you can get some help towards losing weight. You can ask for Reductil - it's a one a day tablet that helps curb your appetite and, I think, makes your brain think you're full. It's well worth asking for (though if he offered you Xenical, refuse it emphatically!)

You're right though - we're constantly being told that this country has a severe problem with over weight people, but there's not a lot of help for it.

Yes, smokers get help, drug addicts get help, alcoholics get help - but tubbies don't get a lot.

I'm overweight and I don't blame my thyroid - I'm on steroids for a medical condition and the weight gain has been awful - and it's a weight gain that you really struggle with to lose. I was nearly killing myself exercising and going to the gym and was so gutted when I'd find that I'd not lost weight or at best lost a pound. Soul destroying - especially since I'd never been above 8 and a half stones my entire adult life.

It's not so easy to sit there saying, if you're fat, lose weight - if it was that easy, we'd all be stick thin!

We need a DIY Diet Club!! :D
 
I went to yet another NHS emergency dental place last night, yet again - 5 different give up smoking leaflets.

The only 1 for weight was an advert for a local gym. :roll:
 
I am overweight. At the start of the year, I weighed 20 stone dead. I know I need to lose weight. Ironically, I wanted to improve my health in 1994, so I stopped smoking. Gradually, since then, my weight has increased.

Anyway, so I am careful with what I eat & am exercising too. I do 30 mins - 1 hr on the treadmill every day. A month ago, I had got myself down to 18 stone exactly. Excellent.

Then I did my back in and was advised by physio not to use the running machine.

I now weigh 19 stone. :cry: However, I am back on it now.

Like Donk, I like watching telly. So, in the garage, on a special plinth above the washer & dryer, is a large TV. Positioned facing it is the treadmill!

I do have a small axe to grind with my weight-obsessed GP. He goes off the BMI, which I think is a flawed system.

According to his chart, at my height (6 feet & 1/2 "), my weight should be a maximum of 13 stone. This would give me a BMI of 25.

Now jokes and my current weight aside, I have a large frame. I have never been 13 stone as an adult, so I can't see myself that weight now.
 
BMI is definitely flawed - specially when we get told that muscle weighs heavier than fat (is this fact or not, I don't know??), so if you were extremely muscular with not an ounce of flab, you could still be in the obese range?

I think the way recommended now is to go by waist measurement.

And anyway, I'm not overweight...............................



I'm under height. :lol:
 
* Joins the club*

6' 4" and 17st 6lb as of this morning... actually the smallest I've been for a good few years... (nearly reached 22st once :shock: )

Aim to get down to about 14st, which I reckon will be about right for me...its comming off slowly, only dropped 2lb in past 3 weeks, but I'm not on a strict diet, more like just trying to cut out unhealthy habbits, etc, and so far its stayed off after starting to drop 2 and a halfish years ago :)
 
I've heard a lot of people say that they gained weight when the stopped smoking..

so I'm gonna go to the doctors and tell him I wanna quit and get the free nicotine patches.. maybe they'll suppress my appetite???

( I don't smoke by the way.. )
 
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