Multiple cracks appearing after part of roof beam removed!!

[vinn]

John D v2.0,
What! You just happen to make "a general observation on life" - how specious.
"Life's too short to argue on the internet" - then what exactly are these statements of yours?
Its hypocritical to claim repugnance for something while doing that very something yourself.
Perhaps you indulge yourself with such sentiments - a sort of hobby?

Who exactly are the "we all" do you speak for England - the internet - this thread?
At the end of the day it might be more appropriate "to learn" before giving duff advice?

 

[vinn]

bernardgreen,
It would certainly "makes me happy and more secure " if I knew for certain that you were going to do a little learning before giving hysterical and rubbish "advice".

 

[bernardgreen]

This post is not related the OP specific question but is directed at Vinn and his opinions.

bits and pieces that the average jobbing tradesman takes in his stride.

How often can "jobbing tradesman" be equated to dodgy builder. According to an insurance company loss adjuster that equate is too often true.

This the extreme of what can happen when dodgy builders get given a project. The guy had to be a totally ignorant idiot to have done what he did

Jimmy, a 32-year-old builder working on a nearby property, said the building began to sag at around 9pm on Tuesday but neighbours heard a terrifying creak more than 12 hours earlier.

He said: “Neighbours said they had heard creaking noises coming from it the yesterday morning at about 6.30.

“People came out looking but nothing happened then.

“Then later we were about to leave work but we stayed for a while to see what would happen.

“Yesterday night at 9 o’clock the roof went to the side like it would collapse and it pushed the front out and looked like it was going to come down any minute. The fire brigade were here and everybody.

“The builders had removed all the ceiling posts and took the rafters down. I thought there’s nothing in that roof, it’s going to go.

“I went home and came back to work today. It was just after one pm when it collapsed.

“We were just standing there and a cherry picker was coming down the road, they were going to try and take the roof down so it didn’t collapse but as soon as they tried to go up the whole thing collapsed.

“One guy was a bit close, he had to run away.

“I’ve worked on building sites for 17 years but I have never seen a house collapse like that – it’s crazy.

“Luckily, no-one was inside, it was just an empty property.”

Jimmy blamed the collapse on “dodgy builders” who he said had been removing beams and rafters while the roof was still on the property.

He said: “There was no sign to say who the builder was.

“It was definitely dodgy builders – you can’t bloody start taking rafters down before you take the roof off.

“It’s ridiculous.”

More info and pictures, including the inside of the roof a few hours before it collapsed, can be found here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ork-six-months-bought-doer-upper-700-000.html

 

[Notabrickie]

This post is not related the OP specific question but is directed at Vinn and his opinions.

Best not to engage with vinn, you should know that by now. Seems to be the first rule of diynot - don't engage with vinn

 

[vinn]

Emergency! Emergency! Call out the guard. Send out the boys of The Old Brigade.
Form a square and sing Welsh songs. They're in the roof lads - give 'em cold steel.

 

[Nige F]

Good grief, bernardgreen is likely not right here but there's ways to disagree without going off on one like a playground tyrant vinn. Betablockers.

Never mind the Betablockers, just watch the phase of the moon

 

[vinn]

"phase of the moon" do you find it helpful? I doubt that astrology will improve the advice you give - but I suppose you need all the help you can get, & it will do you good to get out now & again.