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Certainly wouldn't achieve ANY! IP rating! :lol: :lol:

However if you do find them then RF's pic looks good.
Could you not drill it to suit?

PS Nice work RF. :wink:
 
I can assure you I don't intend to leave the apertures uncovered - if I can't find the gland plates I'll make a couple.

Drilling holes in the top plate isn't really the issue - it's what can I do inside the CU with a couple of dozen T/E cables to stop it looking like a rug weaving project....
 
hi dont know if i am grasping this correctly but looking at rfs pic if you need more space entering the cu cut the trunking cut the top of the cu cut poxolin
just under the size of both elongated bolt all three together poxolin in the middle before anyone comes back at me i may have the wrong spelling for
poxolin paxolin sounds right but just not sure
 
Don't forget you need a minimum IP rating on the top edge when installed....
 
I can assure you I don't intend to leave the apertures uncovered - if I can't find the gland plates I'll make a couple.

Drilling holes in the top plate isn't really the issue - it's what can I do inside the CU with a couple of dozen T/E cables to stop it looking like a rug weaving project....

If you can make the cables enter in the correct vertical position for its intended MCB it may help. Where are you looking to mount the neutral rails? I take it the live bus bars are going to be below the MCBs, is there room to mount the neutral and earth rails for the bottom MCBs between the two rows of MCBs?
 
Hmmm - well, yes/no/maybe.

Depends what I use. The reason I said in an earlier post that the neutral and earth bars might not be Siemens ones (I know, I know, but they're just bits of brass bar with holes in) is that I've got a couple of 4-pole distribution blocks that I could use:

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4 poles will definitely be handy for the neutrals, as the board will be split into 4 sections, but they'd be a very tight squeeze between the two rows of breakers, and would either foul the cables from the lower row, or would end up underneath them. Unless I turn the cables and sweep them off to the side and then up behind the rail at the side of the enclosure, all tie-wrapped together :lol:

Yes I could get more compact bars. Or I could put them in a box on top of the CU, as I think I'm going to need something there to extend the circuit cables anyway.

Not sure yet though if all that does is to displace the problem....
 
I was thinking something along the lines of the single height ones you already find in a consumer unit, mounted on a plastic back bracket which goes the full width of the consumer unit. Might even be able to mount that type higher than the bus bar so it doesn't foul it??
I don't see the need to use cable ties to hold the cores together, how about laying them all out flat along the back? If you arrange the cables in the correct order so as they come long they peel off to the MCBS and look neat. Once bent, single core cables should near enough stay put.
If you chose to have the neutrals in a separate enclosure you'll need to use one big hole in the top for all the wires (eddys). Wouldn't be my preferred option.
How many RCDs are you having in the CU? Any RCBOs?
 
I don't see the need to use cable ties to hold the cores together,
'twas a joke for NHA's benefit... :wink:


Once bent, single core cables should near enough stay put.
True.


If you chose to have the neutrals in a separate enclosure you'll need to use one big hole in the top for all the wires (eddys). Wouldn't be my preferred option.
It would be a big hole - I've got a suitable box that's the same width as the CU, so I'd cut a lot of one side away and fix it to the top of the CU instead of having a plate, and take the cables through the 13" x 2½" aperture. Really it would be like having one enclosure.


How many RCDs are you having in the CU?
Three.


Any RCBOs?
Possibly. Probably not.
 
How does the front cover fit onto the CU? Does it have a lip all the way around?
 
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Nice, so there wont be any problems offering it up to another enclosure :D

I'm also thinking there's loads of room between the top and bottom rows of MCBs.
 
Nice, so there wont be any problems offering it up to another enclosure :D
None whatsoever. Save me having to cut two gland plates as well, as I can't find the damn things, and I'll bet that per cm² the Siemens part costs more than body panels for a Rolls Royce...


I'm also thinking there's loads of room between the top and bottom rows of MCBs.
Yes - it's an obvious place. No room for the 4-pole ones I already have though. Maybe I'll put normal earth & neutral bars for the bottom bank there, and the ones for the top row at the top.
 

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