new boiler recomendations from the pro's

Blimey Dan, you're on good form today
Not really, he can't accept that people can have opinions based on real experience and believes those that do not have the same opinion as him have been using google to find virtual experience.
 
Er the original poster wanted an opinion from a pro.

I can change the actuator on a DV in our boiler in less than 20 seconds and the whole thing, actuator and cartridge in less than five minutes without draining the whole system (I know some guys will 'snatch' a valve as pictured but I wouldn't).
 
He didn't specifically ask for an 'alternate thinker'.

Pretentious, moi?
 
Er the original poster wanted an opinion from a pro.
With respect some "professionals" will sell only their prefered boiler and not what is best for the customer.

Why did three local "heating engineers" recommend a combi when a friend was looking for a new boiler yet the British Gas surveyor recommended a heat only boiler to replace the existing boiler and to re-use the existing cylinder, tanks. ?
 
A good salesperson/estimator will go through the pros and cons with the customer and let them guide them to the right solution. Not an alternative solution, mind.

I saw a BG surveyor rip out an unvented and heat only (5 yrs old both of them) and fit a combi. The female customer dismissed my protestations to keep them, because 'she trusted British Gas'. Her trust was misplaced in this case, it only needed a new motorised valve.

Even if a BG estimator wanted to get the best solution for a customer, the time they are allocated on site doesn't allow much chance to find out.
 
thanks for your replies, I will do my best to save this old girl. There was a problem infact the only problem I can ever remember a few years back and that was the fan seizing, the engineer came out put a bit of wd40 gave it a few spins and BINGO its working again and has worked fine ever since. I will try to get hold of a fan for the future. anything else to look for?. thanks

WD40 is certainly not the best lubricant to use on a fan Calum. It does sound like the boiler fan bearings are Friar Tuck'd or a least on their way out!! So having a spare fan would be advisable.
Nothing else springs to mild spares wise on your parent's appliance. Having the boiler serviced regularly is also advisable & ensure its a good local engineer that carries out the work.
Thanks for showing your gratitude & I hope the whole family have an uneventful Winter.
 
hi guys, good news for you well for me cenrtainly. parents decided to keep the boiler and accept that if it ain't broken don't fix it. I explained and they eventually understood. thanks again for all the advice. cheers:)
 
Don't do it Calum!! The Classic is one of the best boilers Ideal ever made, cast iron heat exchanger & simple controls
I agree with that, ( based on the Classic in a friend's house )

Combi's are more difficult to service ( too much packed into a small metal box ), non vented systems need specially trained and qualified technicians ( G3 ) to install and service them.

A more modern boiler may be more efficient but as already mentioned it will be many years before the savings in gas consumption pay for the cost of the new boiler.

It annoys me when some installers put pressure on customers to go for a combi when it is not the best option for the customer but is the best option for the installer's profit margins.

One greedy little rat even charged a couple for removing the scrap pipes and tanks from their house with its new combi saying he had to pay to dispose of it.

Well, I've been installing combis since the early 80s & quite open minded on the subject. Modern combis are fantastic!! With modern day limited hot water requirements & higher hot water flow rates - the bigger combis can handle a lot.

Lots of combi problems are as a result of poor installation, can certainly shorten the appliance life & reliability.

Of course there's dodgy installers around, like dodgy Lawyers & car mechanics. People need to be selective when employing the services of installers, try to spot bad advise & Cowboys. The cheapest price is rarely the best job & the best installers are always busy.
 
Er the original poster wanted an opinion from a pro.
With respect some "professionals" will sell only their prefered boiler and not what is best for the customer.

Why did three local "heating engineers" recommend a combi when a friend was looking for a new boiler yet the British Gas surveyor recommended a heat only boiler to replace the existing boiler and to re-use the existing cylinder, tanks. ?

With equal respect there are good and bad and diferring opinions, some motivated by personal gain of course but with an additional dollop of respect, to recommend an expensive course of action or anything at all to somebody seeking advice for his elderly parents based on the experiences of 'friends' and no personal professional experience at all does seem to be rather presumptuous.

Personaly I think the last post is the course of action the one I would have recommended though I have no idea of the installation.
 
Er the original poster wanted an opinion from a pro.
With respect some "professionals" will sell only their prefered boiler and not what is best for the customer.

Why did three local "heating engineers" recommend a combi when a friend was looking for a new boiler yet the British Gas surveyor recommended a heat only boiler to replace the existing boiler and to re-use the existing cylinder, tanks. ?

Totally irrelevant twaddle again. None of us was one of those three. And your experiences are remarkably convenient when you're cornered.

Free thinking? Or "creative" thinking?
 
Blimey Dan, you're on good form today

Had an afternoon of bullshyte from people thinking they know better, and dropping me in the cack out of their own incompetence or misunderstanding of basic principles.

Had enough of it. Intentions here may have been meant well, but getting tired of reading the same old bullcrap from people that think they know better when time and time again their knowledge has been shown to be very lacking.
 

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