Outdoor sockets

[cdbe]

Anything special about them?

Will one of these be ok?
It will be fed from a 2.5mm radial from the CU.

 

[terryplumb]

Is the circuit protected by an RCD at the consumer unit ?
If it is you don't need the socket which has an RCD built in.

 

[sparkwright]

Ones made by Click are very good, they come with a gasket which goes around the whole fitting, ensuring a good seal if the cable enters the back.

 

[markyd1]

2.5mm radial....make sure its on a 20 or 16 amp mcb

 

[bernardgreen]

It will be fed from a 2.5mm radial from the CU.

Use a double pole switch in the feed to allow the sockets to be fully isolated if ( when ) they are damaged or water logged.

 

[FrodoOne]

Is the circuit protected by an RCD at the consumer unit ?
If it is you don't need the socket which has an RCD built in.

It has been noted that "The History of Safety Regulations is Written in Blood"

If the "circuit" has "protection" from "overload" at the source
and
protection for "Life Forms" interacting with the circuit is provided (via RCDs/RCBOs) at the source
no further "protection" is either necessary or available - as far as we have been able to determine (from any unfortunate accident which may yet be to happen and which has not yet been foreseen.)

There is the "rub".
We cannot foresee that which we do not know but, history has taught that "Equipment Grounding" is necessary on electrical circuits (to disconnect the circuit via the "overload protection device"), and RCDs/RCBOs are necessary to reduce the risk of "electrocution", via any residual Line to Earth connection - through any "Life Form".

 

[scousespark]

Have you been swimming in Fosters?

 

[bernardgreen]

Have you been swimming in Fosters?

better than drinking it........

 

[JohnD]

Sometimes RCDs don't work

You are much much less likely to have both fail at the same time

 

[scousespark]

Terry said you don’t need an RCD socket if the circuit has RCD or RCBO protection at source. He didn’t say you shouldn’t fit one. It’s hard enough getting people up to speed with BS7671 without Frodo introducing Australian rules and concepts. There is a section ‘electrics outside the UK’ for his posts.

 

[JohnW2]

... and .... protection for "Life Forms" interacting with the circuit is provided (via RCDs/RCBOs) at the source .... We cannot foresee that which we do not know but, history has taught that "Equipment Grounding" is necessary on electrical circuits (to disconnect the circuit via the "overload protection device"), and RCDs/RCBOs are necessary to reduce the risk of "electrocution", via any residual Line to Earth connection - through any "Life Form".

That's a very narrow view of benefit/value of having RCDs/RCBOs.

Over the years, I've repeatedly and extensively tried (here and many other places) to solicit reports of cases in which RCDs/RCBOs have operated as a result of a person (or other "life form"!) suffering an electric shock, and have managed to find hardly any cases.

I would suggest that the main value of residual current devices is that they will operate, and hence clear the fault before anyone has a chance to suffer an electric shock, at the onset of an L-E fault, even when the impedance of the fault is not 'negligible' enough to result in rapid operation of an OPD.

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnD]

RCDs/RCBOs are necessary to reduce the risk of "electrocution", via any residual Line to Earth connection - through any "Life Form".

very generous of you to protect spiders, trees and bacteria

 

[winston1]

2.5mm radial....make sure its on a 20 or 16 amp mcb

Or the normal 32 a used for a ring. A radial can be taken from a ring anywhere including at the CU on a 32 a MCB.

 

[scousespark]

Or the normal 32 a used for a ring. A radial can be taken from a ring anywhere including at the CU on a 32 a MCB.

Installing a ring final circuit in 2022 achieves absolutely nothing.

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

Installing a ring final circuit in 2022 achieves absolutely nothing.

Compared to what?