Petrol and diesel car sales ban brought forward to 2035

[EddieM]

The national grid says it's not a big deal. The links further up the thread.

So this generation of say wind powered AC for long distance transmission to be the converted to DC for charging these mega batteries (highly inefficient at large power storage) The being converted back to AC for the charging points, then being converted by the vehicle back to DC is efficient?

Or you could use a generator at source, using fuel made from the most abundant element on earth as opposed to a relatively scarce one.

#cuckoo.

 

[motorbiking]

Yep. But it’s a Betamax argument. Hydrogen fuel cell isn’t getting the funding batteries are.

Lithium ion cells are everywhere from laptops to flashlights, electric cars to AEDs.

 

[EddieM]

Yep. But it’s a Betamax argument. Hydrogen fuel cell isn’t getting the funding batteries are.

Lithium ion cells are everywhere from laptops to flashlights, electric cars to AEDs.

If it's good enough technology for Apollo 11, it's good enough for the likes of thee 'n' me.

 

[motorbiking]

It would be logical to carbon capture and use the hydrogen to make new hydrocarbon fuels to replace oil. At the end of the day it just needs electricity water and co2.

 

[EddieM]

Yep. But it’s a Betamax argument. Hydrogen fuel cell isn’t getting the funding batteries are.

Lithium ion cells are everywhere from laptops to flashlights, electric cars to AEDs.

Betamax failed due to lack of pre-recorded content being available, despite being better tech at the time, which incidentally was one of the drivers behind the creation of SEC (Sony entertainment corporation)

 

[IT Minion]

So this generation of say wind powered AC for long distance transmission to be the converted to DC for charging these mega batteries (highly inefficient at large power storage) The being converted back to AC for the charging points, then being converted by the vehicle back to DC is efficient?

Or you could use a generator at source, using fuel made from the most abundant element on earth as opposed to a relatively scarce one.

#cuckoo.

Hydrogen? Yeah, can do, but then you get the inefficiency of doing the hydrogen in small less efficient engines and all the losses and costs built into bottling it and transporting it. It could work if the price plummets but it'd also be more useful providing backup power for when the wind doesn't blow.

Also, you've got quite a few of the steps wrong in terms of AC/DC. In particular fast charging is all DC and long distance power transmission is moving to DC as well.

 

[EddieM]

Hydrogen? Yeah, can do, but then you get the inefficiency of doing the hydrogen in small less efficient engines and all the losses and costs built into bottling it and transporting it. It could work if the price plummets but it'd also be more useful providing backup power for when the wind doesn't blow.

Also, you've got quite a few of the steps wrong in terms of AC/DC. In particular fast charging is all DC and long distance power transmission is moving to DC as well.

Engines? they don't have engines? Long range DC transmission? Do say more. Large wind turbines produce AC?

 

[motorbiking]

Super chargers are DC. But it’s still AC source.

 

[HERTS P&D]

Yep. But it’s a Betamax argument.

Betamax lost due to the porn market.

Andy

 

[EddieM]

Super chargers are DC. But it’s still AC source.

The turbines generate AC, just like any other turbine. It's then converted into DC for transmission over very high voltage lines. Not in all cases, sometimes the higher losses in AC is acceptable given short enough distances and low enough power.

I would suggest a short transmission of power over about 1 meter regardless of AC/DC generated at source would be a lot more efficient.

 

[Brigadier]

Betamax lost due to the porn market.

Andy

From the tone of your post, it sounds like you were a keen supporter of that market, Andy

Or should that be "Handy" Andy ?

 

[IT Minion]

I would suggest a short transmission of power over about 1 meter regardless of AC/DC generated at source would be a lot more efficient.

And then the hydrogen would drift happily off into the atmosphere until the sky pixies collect it, compress it, cool it and ship it to the cars that use it.

 

[EddieM]

And then the hydrogen would drift happily off into the atmosphere until the sky pixies collect it, compress it, cool it and ship it to the cars that use it.

Pray tell, why would it do that, when it's converted to water? Have you any clue of what you are talking about? Judging by your clueless comments it appears not.

 

[IT Minion]

Pray tell, why would it do that, when it's converted to water? Have you any clue of what you are talking about? Judging by your clueless comments it appears not.

Clearly we aren't communicating effectively. If you are talking about hydrogen then water is the end state for hydrogen and doesn't store any power. When it's been turned into water it has no more chemical energy.

 

[EddieM]

Clearly we aren't communicating effectively. If you are talking about hydrogen then water is the end state for hydrogen and doesn't store any power. When it's been turned into water it has no more chemical energy.

which why it comes out of the exhaust, pure water, good enough to drink and naturally recycled.