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power tool safety

Discussion in 'Tools and Materials' started by bobasd, 20 Jul 2019.

  1. bobasd

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    power tools esp. bench and stand alone woodworking machines can be deadly for accidents to hands and face.
    this forum DIYNOT.COM has pointed out the dangers of untrained gas fitting with its locked gas forum.
    perhaps this tools forum should have an open, preface thread to advise on tool safety.

    my experience has been that professionals buy good, expensive stuff - DIY'ers buy cheap.
    pros often have a bit of safety training - DIY'ers might have none.
    many youtube vids of guys using table saws are hair raising - definitely not good examples.
    same with 7-1/4" circular saws on utub and on site
     
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  2. KenGMac

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    As I see things on the Health and Safety front, at one time a tradesman working "books in" for a say construction company employing between 50 and 100 men, would expect, as a minimum the "old" tool box talk from either the foreman or the H&S guy employed by the company. The above is back in the day, say 10 / 15 + Years ago.

    Present day practice is for very large "Management Companies" some of the bigger ones have gone to the wall, these Companies had a presence on large sites, and tend to include a H&S "department" a lot of the big boys do actually enforce H&S on the workforce, one of the best I worked with was Scottish Power / National Grid, no second chances with 11KV?? or higher. larger companies tend to use small companies, and at times a lot of Self Employed trades persons to back fill a void in capacity.

    The area that appears to be generally missing H&S training and compliance are the thousands of small one / one man and a lad, companies who have no H&S formalities in place, they just rely on whatever training they have had from the larger firms they may have worked for historically. And close calls they have had??

    As for the DIYer ??? as we can all recall on this site, some go totally overboard on things like "ASBESTOS" any fiber sticking out of something is a dodgy material, or lots and lots of questions about what can / could / should I do with this??? [those are the careful ones] what is of concern are the [possibly] hundreds of thousand DIYers that dive in and "do something" completely oblivious to the potential for harm, we have all come across wonderful examples over time of something some DIYer has somehow just got away with.

    As an aside? there was a BBC Scotland [sorry England] about the most dangerous profession to be in, it transpires Farming is the single most dangerous work environment, machines, animals, Etc. Etc. with if you think about it minimal / no H&S input

    U-Tube has a lot to answer for at times??

    Ken.
     
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  3. Notch7

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    Heres an example I saw on youtube recently,

    Using a diy surface planer wrongly

     
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    And of course, many a pro are involved in accidents with the tools they work with, quite often through their complacency.
     
  5. ^woody^

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    Is this the nanny thread?

    Some people struggle with the edges of paper. I think it's called "Darwinism".
     
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  6. bobasd

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    so, you ask if giving advice to questioners who are ignorant of a subject is a "nanny" activity?
    if thats the case then it seems that you've been giving 25,770 bits of nanny info over a period of 13 years - way to go nana.
     
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  7. Munroist

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    your concern for the safety of others is touching, but I would have thought if your bid is to 'save' others then may be you could concentrate on the obesity crisis that is hitting the nation, compared to anything that is happening with DIY'ers the fast food epidemic is the greatest threat to the health and well being of others - start preaching there, and when you have saved all their souls come back and save us.
     
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  8. Notch7

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    I dont think he was preaching.

    Surely we dont have to forget tool safety because more people die of obesity?

    DIY is quite high on the list of accident statistics, whats wrong with a thread about it?

    Sometimes reading about accidents from diy can jog us out of compacency -DIY and pro.
     
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    You are not giving advice. You've just made a generic nanny statement that "power tools esp. bench and stand alone woodworking machines can be deadly for accidents to hands and face". But I was shocked to learn this all the same.

    I look forward to your forthcoming "The sky is blue" post with eager anticipation. And I will be seated this time so as to not get blown off my feet by your pearls of lightning bolt revelation proportions!
     
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  10. mattylad

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    This....
    Makes this thread worth reading.
    Don't knock DIY as if they are untrained idiots as a great many pro's are also.
    Doing it yourself does not mean that your going to rush and ignore safety, many will refuse to DIY because they have not got the knowledge on how to use
    a power tool safely and have not considered learning.
     
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  11. JobAndKnock

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    Funny thing is that two of the most dangerous tools out there are ladders and Stanley knives - and we all know how to use them safely, don't we lads and lasses?......
     
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    Indeed...

    I seem to recall the death of a diynot poster who sadly met his end from an angle grinder?

    A reminder to us all.
     
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    Also agree with this; complacency has to be the biggest cause of accidents.

    Familiarity breeds contempt!
     
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    Talking about Grinders today I was fitting a skylight using my bosch 18v grinder which is fitted with a quick release nut for changing the blades without the need for tools.
    I had just finished cutting a tile with it and I put it down to quick without letting the blade stop and the nut unwound itself and the blade flew off just missing me. I was rushing to much that's how accidents happen, like the guy with bleeding fingers couldn't be bothered setting his machine on a solid surface almost the first thing in any instruction manual. If you flout these things eventually there will be a price to pay.
     
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