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We've uncovered a well in the foundations of our new extension. We plan to put a glass cover on the top to have as a feature in the new kitchen floor, but whilst we can access it, I'd also like to put in the capability to pump the water to use to irrigate the garden. I'd prefer not to use a submersible pump as it will be very difficult to lift up the glass cover once its in place (as this will be a walk on cover), so I'm thinking what would be good would be to install some kind of permanent (copper??) pipe down the inside of the well, into the water (which is about 7m down), and coming out of a hole in the side of the well near the top, and out into the garden, where we can attach a pump (either petrol or electric) to use when we need to. I'm struggling to find much info about the best way to do this, the diameter of the pipe to use, or even whether this is actually likely to work. Wondering if anyone could advise?
 
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Yes it will work provided you use the right type of pump. It will need to be a positive displacement pump in order to create enough vacuum to suck water up the pipe from the well. The maximum height that a suction pump can lift is in theory 10 metres ( atmospheric pressure on the water in the well and a total vacuum in the pipe) but in practise the maximum height is less as a total vacuum on a dry pump is very difficult to achieve.

A foot valve ( one way valve ) at the bottom of the pipe enables the pump to be primed with water ( from a bucket ) before starting so the pump does not run dry.
 
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No, I’m in surrey Andy, Why?

Bernard, does the foot valve go in the well end or the garden end? Thanks for the advice.
 
Contact the Water Board, you will require a licence to extract the water also you will need the water tested for quality purposes
 
does the foot valve go in the well end or the garden end

Close to the bottom of the well but not at the bottom where there is likely to be sediment which should not be sucked up.

Contact the Water Board, you will require a licence to extract the water also you will need the water tested for quality purposes.

A licence is not required if the abstraction is from a source within your owned property and will be less than 20,000 litres per day. ( from memory so the limit quantity may be lower ). Advice about quality testing is sensible even if it is never going to be used for drinking or cooking.
 
The regulations were changed 1 January this year if one abstracts more than 200 cubic metres over 28 days one has to have a full licence. A temporary licence can be issued for smaller quantities .
The first problem is to ascertain where the water is coming from into the well .
 
The well is victorian. Its on greenbelt/farmland. The water is simply coming from the water table - easy enough to see as we reached the same water level when digging for the extension foundations. As it'll only be used to water the grass and top up the pond etc, not for drinking or bathing I can't say I'm overly concerned about testing. We won't use enough to need a licence.

Andy, that reference totally went over my head! Very funny. Plenty of posh Surrey types we could con in the local farm shops I'm sure!
 
Please some pictures, as you are very lucky to have that. It will make a fantastic talking point.

Also think about having some sort of light in it pointing down.

Andy
 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/water-management-abstract-or-impound-water said:
If you do not abstract water now but want to start any of these activities after 1 January 2018, you will need to apply for a new, full or transfer licence.

Abstractions that do not need a licence
You do not need a licence or to register an exemption for:

  • abstractions of 20 cubic metres or less a day, provided your abstraction is part of a single operation - if you abstract from the same source at multiple points, the exemption only applies if the combined total of all abstractions is 20 cubic metres or less a day
  • filling ships or boats with drinking or ballast water
  • water used for fire fighting
The following exemptions will be in place from 1 January 2018 for some low risk abstraction and impoundments:

  • abstraction (transfers) downstream of the normal tidal limit by navigation, harbour and conservancy authorities, other than in the hour before or after low tide
If you’re not sure if you need a new authorisation licence please contact the Environment Agency
 
WOW!

I had to do a drain survey for a large house in Harpenden, I worked out which way the drains run and said to the new householder that there is a manhole in the centre of their parking area which seems strange. I stood over the manhole and lifted up the cover and found a very large well, it was approx 2.5 meters in diameter, and there was me standing over it. I quickly put the cover back on and moved my van as I was parked next to it.

Andy
 
We would definitely not be taking more than 20 cubic meters a day, so I don't think a licence is of concern.
 
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