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RCD required?

I was just curious as I seemed to recall something about RCD not being required in this sort of scenario.

I have no problem at all fitting an RCBO for the lights. The board is being replaced so RCD protection can be fitted for some new sockets I'm installing.
 
I was just curious as I seemed to recall something about RCD not being required in this sort of scenario.
Yes, but "not being required" is surely not the major issue. If you are replacing the board, then the logical thing would be to include RCD protection for these buried cables (and most/all other things) - so I imagine that you would only fail to provide such protection if you felt that there was some positive reason for omitting it?

Kind Regards, John
 
Does the canteen include the kitchen?
If loss of light would be a danger, then that surely can only be addressed by installing emergency lighting? - lighting can be lost because of power cuts and faults that trip OPDs etc. as well as from RCDs operating.

Kind Regards, John
 
The very point of replacing the CU in most cases is to bring that part of the installation up to current standards. It's not the complete circuits you're necessarily making fully compliant, it's the circuit protection. As stillp said and eric alluded to the risk of more frequent tripping and possible consequences could well be argued to be less safe.
 
I'm not in the habit of RCD protecting every circuit I come across without thinking about whether it's actually required.

There is a small kitchenette area in the canteen.
 
As stillp said and eric alluded to the risk of more frequent tripping and possible consequences could well be argued to be less safe.
.. and as I've just written, if it is judged that loss of lighting might represent a danger, then by far the most important thing would be to install emergency lighting - 'RCD trips' are by no means the only possible cause of failure of lighting!

Kind Regards, John
 
Does the canteen include the kitchen?
If loss of light would be a danger, then that surely can only be addressed by installing emergency lighting? - lighting can be lost because of power cuts and faults that trip OPDs etc. as well as from RCDs operating.

Kind Regards, John
Yes, but installing an RCD would increase the risk.
 
I'm not in the habit of RCD protecting every circuit I come across without thinking about whether it's actually required.
You talk as if I might about work in my own house :-)

However, as I said at the very start of this thread, although others clearly disagree, I personally doubt that there is a regulatory requirement to provide RCD protection for (existing) buried cables when changing a CU/DB.

Kind Regards, John
 
by far the most important thing would be to install emergency lighting - lighting can be lost because of power cuts and faults that trip OPDs etc. as well as from RCDs operating.
Yes, but installing an RCD would increase the risk.
Only by a miniscule amount (i.e. if the emergency light, as well as the primary lighting power, failed at the same time). If one has installed emergency lighting which will come on whenever the lighting circuit loses its power (for any reason) then, provided that emergency lighting works, installing an RCD will not result in any increased risk.

Kind Regards, John
 
I'm going to show my ignorance now, but are cables less than 50mm below the wall surface to be RCD protection only applicable to domestic situations?
 
I'm going to show my ignorance now, but are cables less than 50mm below the wall surface to be RCD protection only applicable to domestic situations?
Maybe I need a trip to Specsavers, but I've seen nothing in the current regs which suggests that the requirement does not apply to all installations.

Kind Regards, John
 
Something tells me all this RCD stuff doesn't apply to industrial and commercial, but I could be very, very wrong about that...
 

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