Rewiring

[Raphael]

Guys thank you very much for your replies.

I have to say that ban-all-sheds is right that i dont know the regulations here and I may replicate previous mistakes. Ban-all-sheds you also dissapointed me with all these terms...TT,TNS etc (Although if you could tell me what these terms are I would like to know).

Supersparks-- the only reason why I want to rewire my house is because it is old. However there were never reported any problems with the electricity in the house. Is it possible to check the status of wiring before I do anything?

Thank you all for your advice...gratefully appreciated

 

[supersparks]

do you have fuses or trip switches?
any brown sockets mounted on skirting?
does your lighting circuit have an earth?
is the cable rubber?
is the cable lead sheathed?
do you have fabric covered flex coming from ceiling roses?
this will help you determin if you need a rewire

AR

 

[dinger541]

Hi all,

As most of you here will recognise from my posts in the last few weeks, i am not an accomplished DIYer, i'm a relative newbee to this lark. I'm an Electronics Tech so i have a rudimentary grasp of the basics which is why I almost understood the hyrogliphics that Ban All Sheds put in there .... LOL, I know its all in the 16th edition regs at least.

but i got the consumer unit replaced by a COMPETENT QUALIFIED person and only then, and after reading a lot and asking questions on this forum did i attempt to fix the wiring problems that had become apparant. And only in small baby steps....and i will get it checked at the end by a COMPETENT QUALIFIED person....promise! but so far so good, everything is safe and it works.

Thank you for all your help....except the muppet who swears at leckies
he's called out......lol.

Cheers

Dinger

 

[il78]

do you have fuses or trip switches?
any brown sockets mounted on skirting?
does your lighting circuit have an earth?
is the cable rubber?
is the cable lead sheathed?
do you have fabric covered flex coming from ceiling roses?
this will help you determin if you need a rewire

AR

What a beautiful poem.............

 

[supersparks]

do you have fuses or trip switches?
any brown sockets mounted on skirting?
does your lighting circuit have an earth?
is the cable rubber?
is the cable lead sheathed?
do you have fabric covered flex coming from ceiling roses?
this will help you determin if you need a rewire

AR

What a beautiful poem.............

are you trippin'
maybe i try to sellit
patent pending

AR

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Raphael - sorry, didn't mean to disappoint you, that wasn't my intention - it was a cheap shot aimed at the guy who tells electricians to **** off because he installed a shower when he was 14 and therefore must know enough to do anything himself. For all I know he is now 44 and has spent the last 30 years studying the subject and really does know everything. I just couldn't resist it, as it was a shot aimed at me by a professional when I suggested that it was possible for DIY-ers to become safe enough to do wiring in their houses. Some of you here may not be suprised to learn that it was in the context of a "debate" on Part P....

Anyway - you could do a lot worse than to start here: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/1.1.htm, not least because it's free!

If you want books, someone else here has recommended this but it's more expensive than the hard-copy version of the one above.

The IEE themselves publish this, and you can see the TOC online. It looks nice and comprehensive.

The wiring regs costs £60, and is probably not the most readable of tomes - might be an idea to get it from the library before investing what could alternatively buy you some useful tools instead.

Would any of the pros here suggest that a copy of the regs would be of much use to the DIY-er? (Or, even if "useless", could they nevertheless be of interest?)

What about the OSG, or any of the guidance notes?

The Which? book gets good reviews.

Also, if it means anything, Collins (publishers of "The Complete DIY Manual" & "Wiring and Lighting") and Reader's Digest, publishers of "The Complete DIY Manual", were amongst the organisations asked to contribute to the consultation over Part P. That might have been random or it might have been because their books were reckoned to be particuarly good.

 

[masona]

I put my first shower in at 14, yes 14, with no help and only a little bit of advice from my uncle.

I don't think Sterose explained it probably,what he meant was a watering can from the tree and pull it with the rope for instant shower.I did this when I was 4 years old,so I beaten him by 10 years

 

[il78]

I thought it was one of those rubber shower hoses that you stick onto the hot and cold taps.....

 

[supersparks]

LOL, MAYBE YOUR BOTH RIGHT!!!, a watering can with a rubber shower hose and head attached, this made him think he was clever because the addition of the rubber shower hose ment he dident have to stand under the tree!
and i like the way we are supposed to be shocked at the fact he was 14 when he did it!
i was taught how to wire a plug when i was three by my dad, possibly one of the most useful things anyone can be taught.
god i hate people who think they know better than the trades that do it for a living, day in day out!!!
why are there such a$$ holes in this world

AR

 

[il78]

The wiring regs costs £60, and is probably not the most readable of tomes - might be an idea to get it from the library before investing what could alternatively buy you some useful tools instead.

Nightmare £60......good job I get it for FREE

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Nightmare £60......good job I get it for FREE

What would happen if you "lost" your copy ?

 

[il78]

I would have to come to your house and get it back

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Oh poo...

 

[i-will-try]

do you have fuses or trip switches?
any brown sockets mounted on skirting?
does your lighting circuit have an earth?
is the cable rubber?
is the cable lead sheathed?
do you have fabric covered flex coming from ceiling roses?
this will help you determin if you need a rewire

AR

hi, i have some of the above in the house we bought 6 months ago, although the electricity is working ok, we did attempt to employ a sparky to rewire the whole house for us.......he came with another worker , both did 3 days work, never asked for any money and we have never seen them since, i have tried numerous other sparky's, but i only get " it's too big a job". i live in a 3 storey 1900's house.

so what advice would you give me???? thankyou

 

[Adam_151]

god i hate people who think they know better than the trades that do it for a living, day in day out!!!
why are there such a$$ holes in this world
AR

Some of them might just be right in thinking that (though rare I admit), it depends on what kind of DIYer you are talking about and what type of trades person...

Let me explain, a DIYer could well be someone who designs complex electronics for a living, if such a person wanted to DIY I'm sure its not beyond them to obtain a copy of BS7671 the OSG, and quite possibly the commentary by paul cook (such might be the mentality of such people) and study things completely and they then may well have a better idea of things than an apprenticeship trained spark who is just of the mentality that its a job, hasn't opened his copy of the regs in the last 5 years, etc.

Or what about the people who write the regs? Or people involved in designing the test instruments you use?, etc, etc