Rupert Lowe.

[fixitflav]

That's the problem, nobody is happy about it (boat people), but there is no easy answer. We can't control who is leaving France, yet.

But there is an easy answer. Some other countries keep them out. Why can't UK?

 

[denso13]

But there is an easy answer

What is it?

 

[MNW67]

But there is an easy answer. Some other countries keep them out. Why can't UK?

Complicated. The only way would be to prevent them crossing into British waters. Whether this can be done safely and legally has been discussed over hundreds of pages on here. There is also an issue about what diplomatic fallout it might cause.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

But there is an easy answer. Some other countries keep them out. Why can't UK?

I'm interested in this .

 

[fixitflav]

What is it?

Part of it would be get out of the ECHR, and curb the power of the judges, who are unelected, but make decisions on deportation that most people see as ridiculous.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Part of it would be get out of the ECHR, and curb the power of the judges, who are unelected, but make decisions on deportation that most people see as ridiculous.

Not concerned about GFA ?

 

[denso13]

Part of it would be get out of the ECHR, and curb the power of the judges, who are unelected, but make decisions on deportation that most people see as ridiculous.

So, deport all of them?

 

[pete01]

HMOs I think.

That's a big fear of mine OMG

 

[JP_]

get out of the ECHR

How would this help? Besides the fact that UK was instrumental in developing the European Convention on Human Rights, and that it is rooted in UK law, so "getting out" of it would not actually make any difference unless you also dismantled UK law ...

But, how would it make a difference?

What we ideally need to do is discourage countries from blowing up their citizens. We're going to get a lot more refugees over coming years if Israel, Russia and the rest get their way.

Peace is the answer. Diplomacy, aid, support, etc. Hate and war, which ironically many right wingers seem to support, just creates more refugees.

 

[MNW67]

Part of it would be get out of the ECHR, and curb the power of the judges, who are unelected, but make decisions on deportation that most people see as ridiculous.

The government is trying to narrow the scope of how Article 8 ECHR is applied in the UK courts. The EU are looking to change the ECHR itself to make it harder for asylum seekers to stay. Article 8 is the right to family life and is the rule which most of these cases fall under.

 

[MNW67]

That's a big fear of mine OMG

I suppose they could end up pretty much anywhere. Do you have any particular reason to think it might be near you.

 

[pete01]

I suppose they could end up pretty much anywhere. Do you have any particular reason to think it might be near you.

Not really you just never know I suppose

 

[carmanmemoranda]

How would this help? Besides the fact that UK was instrumental in developing the European Convention on Human Rights, and that it is rooted in UK law, so "getting out" of it would not actually make any difference unless you also dismantled UK law ...

But, how would it make a difference?

What we ideally need to do is discourage countries from blowing up their citizens. We're going to get a lot more refugees over coming years if Israel, Russia and the rest get their way.

Peace is the answer. Diplomacy, aid, support, etc. Hate and war, which ironically many right wingers seem to support, just creates more refugees.

I don't think they connect all the dots.

 

[Stivino]

she tested it and found it wasn't meeting her expectations

Aye, so she did.

 

[Mottie]

HMOs I think.

I pity the poor fùckers that get an HMO next door to one.