reminds me of somewhere....
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Maybe Vinty could do a list.....
China, by contrast, tends to restrain herself to the Eastern hemisphere.
this is the reason why Tories havent looked for any Russian influence:
6 CabMins received Russian-linked donations of £5k-£58k
•Robert Buckland
•Simon Hart
•Brandon Lewis
•Alok Sharma
•Rishi Sunak
•Anne-Marie Trevelyan
10 Junior Ministers 2 newly appointed members of Intel&Sec Comm
•Theresa Villiers £2k
•Mark Pritchard £5k
6 CabMins received Russian-linked donations of £5k-£58k
•Robert Buckland
•Simon Hart
•Brandon Lewis
•Alok Sharma
•Rishi Sunak
•Anne-Marie Trevelyan
10 Junior Ministers 2 newly appointed members of Intel&Sec Comm
•Theresa Villiers £2k
•Mark Pritchard £5k
The UK was involved in many on yer list
Intellegence
Covert special. Forces etc
Logistics
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Maybe Vinty could do a list.....
China, by contrast, tends to restrain herself to the Eastern hemisphere.
Nonsense
Stop being racist, do you believe that it is wrong that political parties should take money from foreigners or is just Russian foriegners you have problems with.
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Do you really believe the stuff you post.
"brought peace and prosperity to the region" you say.
The only thing the EU has brought to Ukraine is civil war and massive corruption.
King Billy sorted Europe out, we need a new king Billy.
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To understand EU tensions, remember William III
William III Portrait by Sir Godfrey Kneller, 1680s. Credit: Wikipedia
The impasse in Brussels negotiations over a proposed coronavirus rescue fund for the EU has been described in parts of the British media as a ‘squabble’.
But that description is superficial and misleading. For what is going on in Brussels is a struggle over the future constitutional nature of the European Union. It is a struggle between the French conception of the goal for the EU, a centralised structure in many ways resembling the French state, and a decentralised model in which the EU would be at best a confederation.
This is a struggle of great importance for the UK, for on its outcome depends no less than the political future of Western Europe. For centuries it has been a maxim of British foreign policy that the emergence of an overweening, centralised power in Europe was to be avoided. It is striking that the maxim was introduced by William III, our Dutch king — a ruler who spent his life opposing the encroachments of France under Louis XIV. Those encroachments took the form of military invasion of the Netherlands and a real reduction of English independence by means of the generous subsidies on which Charles II depended.
Faced with the threat of French conquest of his native land and the prospect of England becoming a French satellite, William III’s entire career was dominated by a maxim he asserted when still quite young: “Europe must be saved from the French”. That conviction gradually came to guide British foreign policy. Adapted to apply not only to France, it became opposition to the emergence of any single, centralised state on the other side of the Channel.
Disengaging from the European Union has not reduced the UK’s proximity to Europe, yet there has been remarkably little discussion of how Britain’s exit was likely to affect the future shape of the EU itself. This is one of the most important matters that British policy must now address.
It is not a mere accident that the Dutch prime minister and finance minister have taken the lead in opposing the proposed coronavirus rescue fund. But they are not alone: Austria, Finland, Denmark and Sweden have joined. These EU states, which previously took British membership for granted and relied on the UK to defend the cause of a relatively decentralised EU, have now been awakened from their slumbers.
They can no longer rely on British scepticism about integration — something that often prevented centralising measures being put forward in the first place. Nor can they rely on Germany, despite its own relatively decentralised form of the state, to stand up to French pressures to extend the EU’s competences. Though Germany has recovered some confidence, even now it seems unable to stand up to French pressure at critical moments.
The current struggle is such a moment
https://unherd.com/thepost/to-understand-eu-tensions-remember-william-iii/
But it's fascinating that France is the enemy you're worried about in a thread about Russian intervention in our democratic process.
Exit: you're also ignoring the unusual period of peace in Europe since WW2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea
But it's fascinating that France is the enemy you're worried about in a thread about Russian intervention in our democratic process.
Exit: you're also ignoring the unusual period of peace in Europe since WW2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea
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Maybe it's the new Trumpism. Blame the Germans, blame the French, blame the Russians, blame the Chinese, blame the immigrants. Blame anyone to divert attention away from our own inadequacies.
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Seriously do you believe the stuff you post......I believe in what I post because it's researched.
Here you are claiming the EU have brought massive corruption to Ukraine......you got any real evidence instead of quoting something that doesn't prove your point one iota.
And yes the EU have brought peace and prosperity to Eastern Europe.
The EU hold some responsibility for what ocured in the Ukraine
With ref to the Russian military
It's been spoken of on the radio several. Times
Prior to Russian action
the EU were warned by the Russians of what could be the consequences
With ref to the Russian military
It's been spoken of on the radio several. Times
Prior to Russian action
the EU were warned by the Russians of what could be the consequences
Just think of the world political structure as a giant GD forum.
One large part has elected Mottie in charge and another JohnD.
It all becomes clear.
One large part has elected Mottie in charge and another JohnD.
It all becomes clear.
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