shocking earth

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

I worked with an electrician for 3 years, putting boxes on/in walls

Sounds like if you have evolved/trusted to go no further than sinking and surface mounting boxes over a three year period, that this voyage is a little too far for your experience.
I suggest you drop anchor and pick up the phone and do the right thing or do that flag waving thing.

 

[sinbad1000]

RCD

• sinbad1000
• 18 Jan 2014
• 1

the wires from going in top is from supply, the tails go to upstairs flat CU, (all as was...

this is the RCD

 

[sinbad1000]

earth to neg test

• sinbad1000
• 18 Jan 2014
• 1

one end on earth the other on negative gets these results<br>

this is reading from connecting earth and negative

 

[bernardgreen]

this is reading from connecting earth and negative

There is no NEGATIVE wire in an AC supply it is the NEUTRAL

If you have 240 volts relative to earth on the wire you call negative then you have a polarity reversal. Live and neutral exchanged. This means your MCBs will be in the neutral and not in the live feed. This is
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO LIFE

The lead from the meter to the RCD is far too small. This is a FIRE RISK as that cable will burn before the service fuse opens.

You are out of your depth, you are putting yourself and anyone using electrical appliance in the flat at risk and you have a fire risk from over loaded cables.

You have exposed terminals on the RCD that is loose and appears to be laying on metal tools, very hazardous.

GET AN ELECTRICIAN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE

 

[sinbad1000]

i'm just reporting what is there, the electrics are shut off and the professional firm that installed the electrics to the upstairs flat have been called in to put right what they installed, so much for the "professionals"

 

[flameport]

i'm just reporting what is there, the electrics are shut off

The pictures show the supply ON.

i haven't connected any supply, just the earth,

again i haven't installed anything, i've just taken out old junk and reconnected supply where it was in 1st place

Really.

the main supply fuse is still there, rusted can't remove fuse

Implying that you must have attempted to remove it to discover that it was rusted in.

again I haven't DONE anything, just taken away, the incoming supply is as it was

Either you are very confused, or the entire thread is a pack of lies.

Another issue - that meter hanging off the wall upside down won't be recording properly, so you could be prosecuted for obtaining electricity illegally.

The best course of action here is to call UK Power Networks and have the supply to the building disconnected because it is DANGEROUS.
Then have the wiring in the workshop replaced/installed and do whatever repairs are required elsewhere.

 

[RF Lighting]

FFS the stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

That installation is just waiting to kill someone. The only course of action is to get the supplier out to disconnect the power by phoning their emergeny helpline right now.

 

[bernardgreen]

i'm just reporting what is there, the electrics are shut off and the professional firm that installed the electrics to the upstairs flat have been called in to put right what they installed, so much for the "professionals"

Before you do anything else read this

http://www.safetyfirstaid.co.uk/first-aid-guides/Electric-Shock-Information.aspx and get someone else to read it in case you are the one who gets the shock.

The electrics are not shut off. There is a supply through the meter to the RCD as proven by the 240 volt indication in the photo you provided.

The "professionals" who installed the electrics would not have meddled with the meter. You said you had removed the junk. A true professional would have called the DNO to perform an emergency disconnection as soom as they saw the meter board in that state.

 

[securespark]

I'm staggered this has run to 3 pages, when Bernard screamed this on page 1:

GET AN ELECTRICIAN IN NOW

 

[ricicle]

I'd said it half an hour before Bernard

 

[bernardgreen]

I wonder who connected these "tails" into the meter.

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• sinbad1000
• 18 Jan 2014
• 1

meter

because this

earth to neg test

• sinbad1000
• 18 Jan 2014
• 1

one end on earth the other on negative gets these results<br>

suggests who ever reconnected the supply got the Live and Neutral reversed, now who did that.. ?

Are those seals genuine DNO / supplier's seals.

again i haven't installed anything, i've just taken out old junk and reconnected supply where it was in 1st place, ,

i'm just running some sockets and i am getting an electrician to make meter connection and sign off work

The chap who did this is an electrician ?

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• sinbad1000
• 18 Jan 2014
• 1

professionals installed CU

This will run until Sinbad gets hurt because he will not accept advice and is looking for someone to say what he has done is not as bad as it is.

 

[Lectrician]

That T+E does look like it's sealed at the meter, oddly?

This 230v between live and neutral could be due to the earth volts being high, due to a L to E fault in the installation, or a reverse polarity.

 

[viewer]

Suspect reason for sealed meter and 'tiny tails' is that the latter are not properly connected, simply jammed into the sides of the terminals, which can only be done with a small wire (and often with the aid of a toothpick/wallplug etc).

 

[ekmdgrf]

RCD

• sinbad1000
• 18 Jan 2014
• 1

the wires from going in top is from supply, the tails go to upstairs flat CU, (all as was...

this is the RCD

Is this what's known as "float current"?

 

[securespark]

I'd said it half an hour before Bernard

My sincere apologies, dear fellow, so you did.

I missed it as it was not yelled in red....