Siting Electric cooker control

[xr4x4]

In a cupboard under the island unit?

 

[EFLImpudence]

I suppose within two metres of the ovens - if one controlling all.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

On the island unit?

Is it acceptable to mount electrical accessories on furniture?

In a cupboard under the island unit?

Does that qualify as readily accessible?

I suppose within two metres of the ovens - if one controlling all.

Even if that's more than 2m from the hob?

 

[Paul_C]

Is it acceptable to mount electrical accessories on furniture?

I wouldn't call a securely constructed island unit which is fixed to the floor furniture. Besides, if it's not considered secure/permanent enough to mount an isolation switch on it, how would it be considered secure/permanent enough to mount the actual electric hob on it?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Maybe it's designed to do that but not to have holes cut into the sides for switches?

 

[Paul_C]

Maybe it's designed to do that but not to have holes cut into the sides for switches?

Surface mount the switch? Fabricate a bracket to hold it? Depending upon the design, there is bound to be some way to do it with a little thought.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I suppose within two metres of the ovens - if one controlling all.

Even if that's more than 2m from the hob?

We've already established this is not a regulation but if so in relation to the oven that would seem acceptable.
Preferable to 'hidden' in cupboard which those unfamiliar with the house would not know.

In a kitchen that big the island itself would be large so a 'nice' switch on the side wouldn't look too bad. There may even be other switches for various things.

There's always a shower pull-cord over the hob - with gold chain, of course.

Didn't see the bit about no holes.
Am also cooking dinner in my very small kitchen

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Do you think that a surface mounted switch or particularly a DIY'd bracket of some sort, qualifies as good workmanship?

 

[Paul_C]

Do you think that a surface mounted switch or particularly a DIY'd bracket of some sort, qualifies as good workmanship?

Depends on whether either method is carried out by using good workmanship or not.

But just what type of island unit do you have in mind which can hold an electric hob on top but for which some simple method can't be found to mount a switch on the side?

 

[JohnW2]

Do you think that a surface mounted switch or particularly a DIY'd bracket of some sort, qualifies as good workmanship?

Depends on whether either method is carried out by using good workmanship or not.

Exactly.

But just what type of island unit do you have in mind which can hold an electric hob on top but for which some simple method can't be found to mount a switch on the side?

Quite so. There seems more a little 'arguing for the sake of arguing' going on here. It does seem very odd to see a suggestion that a structure deemed acceptable for mounting a fixed electrical appliance (with fixed wiring) might not be suitable for the mounting of a switch!

Kind Regards, John.

 

[Paul_C]

It does seem very odd to see a suggestion that a structure deemed acceptable for mounting a fixed electrical appliance (with fixed wiring) might not be suitable for the mounting of a switch!

Indeed - I can't really see where this is heading.....

 

[ban-all-sheds]

One with a structure designed to take vertical loads, clad in non-structural acrylic?

Or structural acrylic not designed to cope with the stresses from having a hole cut?

One without a large enough worktop overhang to mean that a surface enclosure wouldn't get knocked into?

One where the cable to the appliance runs where either the switch would have to be on the "wrong" side or where the cable would have to be re-routed out if its void and run back/forth inside the cupboard?

One with no plane surfaces on the sides?

 

[JohnW2]

One with a structure designed to take vertical loads, clad in non-structural acrylic?
Or structural acrylic not designed to cope with the stresses from having a hole cut?
One without a large enough worktop overhang to mean that a surface enclosure wouldn't get knocked into?
One where the cable to the appliance runs where either the switch would have to be on the "wrong" side or where the cable would have to be re-routed out if its void and run back/forth inside the cupboard?
One with no plane surfaces on the sides?

One can go on hypothesising about potential problems for as long as one likes - but that does sound very close to 'arguing for the sake of arguing'. In reality, there are few, if any, problems of the type you are imagining that could not be addressed in one way or another.

Anyway, why not first attempt to gather some facts which would enable you to make an assessment of whether/which problems might exist, rather than imagining a whole range of theoretical obstacles which may well not exist?

Kind Regards, John.

 

[JohnW2]

It does seem very odd to see a suggestion that a structure deemed acceptable for mounting a fixed electrical appliance (with fixed wiring) might not be suitable for the mounting of a switch!

Indeed - I can't really see where this is heading.....

Look at the post after yours to which I'm replying and you might get some insight into that

Kind Regards, John.

 

[Paul_C]

In reality, there are few, if any, problems of the type you are imagining that could not be addressed in one way or another.

For sure - If the non-structural side panels aren't suitable for mounting the switch, you find some way to attach it to the structural members. If the cable has to detour to reach the switch, you find some way to route the cable neatly and securely, and so on.

And if there really aren't any acceptable ways (electrically and aesthetically) to mount what is required to do the job on this hypothetical island unit, then perhaps it would not be good workmanship to try and use said island unit for this purpose in the first place?