So who won the Leader's Debate?
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dexdeloup
Only just cottoned onto that one Exactly - http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=221147
Anyway, there seems to be some promises of a referendum on something (elected house of lords?). Bit like the last promise of one on the lisbon(?) treaty
there should be a quarterly (or 4 monthly) referendum.. asking what we want..... At the end of the day those overpayed politicians seem to think they rule us.... but we elect and pay them... we should also be able to control and 'slay' them..... regular refernda... would give them an idea obaout how they're performing!
Why stop at MPS, i think every four months Brain Surgeons should ask for my opinion on how they should do their job...oh, and chemists too, I should be able to suggest dosage...Astro physics needs are help too...tell Nasa to send us the measurements, we'll work it out.
After all the mass uneducated, inexperienced mob will do a better job than the professionals right?
Wrong, they will do whatever their paper tells them to.
That is the most frightening idea ever.
Everyone having sufferage is scary enough without the public being in direct control.
You pick the outcome, what you want. The MPs decide the best way forward to get to that outcome. You vote for the MPs you think will do your will. DONE.
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Following this argument to its logical conclusion, why bother having elections at all then?
...because you need to be able to pick the MPs based on what outcome they would like to see happen....but once we give them the job, we need to let them do it.
Barack Obama has about as much experience of heavy/light weight as a tesco check out girl.
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It seems to me that all political punters in the UK agree with him. He came across as a proper Nancy Boy that's never done a days work in his life.
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But your argument involved the frequency / time period that we call MP's into account. The current arrangement is arbitrary, so why not change it to shorter periods? Heck, if I didn't "produce the goods" or have significant evidence that progress was being made after 4 months in my job, then I'd be out on my ear.
...even though we know he has?
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Did you see him holding that paint brush? Like a right girl.
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What, picking cotton?
Your problem is that you keep trying to compare the running of the country and the set up and processes it requires with a job me or you might do.
Just doesn't work. In order to see any real change what with procedures and safe guards the way they are, they need atleast a few years to get things working and then to be able to see the affects of it.
It would be like me giving you a chalk board and then asking you why you haven't written on it before you have had a chance to walk over to it and then before you have time to tell me why, firing you.
No he was a director at Carlton for 3/4 of a decade.
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dexdeloup
Whaddya mean "Your problem"?
Your "problem" is that you don't read the text nor see the messages and arguments being stated and prefer instead to go off on your flights of fancy without developing and evolving. Maybe you need a few years for things to sink in - some of us on here don't need to take that long
I'll try again though - following your argument through to its natural conclusion, why bother ever having an election. After all, it can sometimes take centuries for a process to fully develop, so why pull the plug after an arbitrary 4 or 5 years.
On the other hand, as it is arbitrary, why not 4 months before having a serious stopcheck on progress so far.
Your "problem" is that you don't read the text nor see the messages and arguments being stated and prefer instead to go off on your flights of fancy without developing and evolving. Maybe you need a few years for things to sink in - some of us on here don't need to take that long
I'll try again though - following your argument through to its natural conclusion, why bother ever having an election. After all, it can sometimes take centuries for a process to fully develop, so why pull the plug after an arbitrary 4 or 5 years.
On the other hand, as it is arbitrary, why not 4 months before having a serious stopcheck on progress so far.
