Socket enclosure for chunky plugs

[JohnW2]

I think flameport did a youtube video. 8:50

Just the testing apparently.....

Thanks. I'll have a look when I have a moment.
However, on the basis of the 'title'of that video alone, I'm not sure it is going to prove relevant to the Op's situation/question regarding one single socket,is it?

 

[AndyPRK]

It was in reference to your question.

The EV is just an add on at the end. See 8:50 mins secs

 

[morqthana]

I need to use this specific switched socket, so just need to find an enclosure with more space at the bottom but every one I see looks identical to the one I have. I could modify this one and shave a bit of the plastic off but would rather just find an enclosure that is fit for purpose. Surely this isn't a new problem as I can't see how any chunky modern plug would ever fit into any of these.

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So does the grey enclosure come with a socket built in? In which case don't they do an unswitched one?

Or does it come empty for you to install your own socket? In which case why not use an unswitched one?

 

[Sureitsoff?]

Of course now we have to ask "how long does it take to charge a granny? and do grandads take longer?"

 

[morqthana]

Not if he used to be a sailor, as that would be a salt and battery.

 

[JohnW2]

It was in reference to your question. The EV is just an add on at the end. See 8:50 mins secs

OK, thanks.
...so it seems that the only difference (to qualify for the "/EV") is additional testing relating to plugging/unplugging whilst an inductive load is connected?

If so,then given that we're talking about a switched socket, presumably one could (electrically, if not also in regulatory terms) avoid that problem by operating the switch before inserting/removing the plug (which I would say one really should ideally always do with any plug/socket, anyway)?

 

[JohnW2]

So does the grey enclosure come with a socket built in? In which case don't they do an unswitched one? Or does it come empty for you to install your own socket? In which case why not use an unswitched one?

As I've just written, the perceived issue with an EV charger seems to relate to plugging/unplugging with an inductive load connected.

As I wrote,one could presumably avoid that issue (electrically), even with a standard BS 1363 socket, by 'switching off' before inserting/removing the plug -but that would only be possible if it were a switched socket.

 

[AndyPRK]

You could get special inductive load light switches, so I would like to think the testing requires and includes that.

 

[SUNRAY]

Of course now we have to ask "how long does it take to charge a granny? and do grandads take longer?"

everything takes longer for granddads than grannies

 

[morqthana]

As I wrote,one could presumably avoid that issue (electrically), even with a standard BS 1363 socket, by 'switching off' before inserting/removing the plug -but that would only be possible if it were a switched socket.

Or if an external switch was used, hence my questions about getting/using an unswitched socket in that enclosure.

 

[JohnW2]

Or if an external switch was used, hence my questions about getting/using an unswitched socket in that enclosure.

Indeed, but (given that a use could obvious choose to ignore all switches), I don't whether having either a switched socket or a separate switch would satisfy the regulatory requirements for 'a socket used for an EV charger' - do you?

 

[morqthana]

Dunno. Do those requirements require a switched socket?

 

[JohnW2]

Dunno. Do those requirements require a switched socket?

AsI said, that's what I don't know (haven't bothered to find out about such things, since I've never had a need, and probably never will have).

 

[Gallo]

I think I may have found a solution to my problem. Looking at the documentation for the Hager Sollysta switches it seems that there are quite a few that are compliant with the BS EV standard.

https://assets.hager.com/step-content/P/HA_53582440/Document/std.lang.all/Sollysta%2013A%20Single%20Gang%20Sockets%20for%20EV%20Circuits%20%28signed%29.pdf

One of these sockets is unswitched, so would be centralised in a regular enclosure and likely work fine with my cable.

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There is also a two gang size with a key switch that could go into a 2 gang enclosure. I believe that would also be centralised on the left side.

Hager WMS812LN 13a DP Key Switch Socket

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