Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Deleted member 323070]

keep being wrong then.

Correcting your misinterpretations is not 'being wrong' .

They are not asylum seekers until they claim asylum.

If someone has the intention to do something, it's reasonable to describe them ss though they have acted as they intended.

You clearly know nothing of the tools they have. Radar, Drones and plenty of small craft. If you look at the video they were using adapted Jetskis. £10k a pop.
Nobody has suggested a borderforce cutter. There are plenty of suitable vessels. An Axopar 37 would easily do the job. £250k But I suspect they have plenty of options.

They don't have any fast attack military style boats.
They don't have unlimited access to as many boats, equipment or personnel as needed.

They were using jet skis. Marinaras do it daily in £5k boats.

How many asylum seekers can a jet ski rescue?
It would be like attacking a cow with flies buzzing round.

Nonsense - I've provided links.

I prefer to wait for the official data rather than your presentation of RWR origins.

Article 25 allows any necessary means.

Only for "non innocent" vessels.
May I remind you of what you just said:

keep being wrong then.

Correcting your misinterpretations is not 'being wrong' .

For as long as you continue to present your misinterpreted version of regulations, i will continue to correct you.

now you are hop skip and jumping around as you call it.

Presenting the recognised international interpretation of the regulations is not hop, skipping and jumping about.

The data has been posted - it was a terrible tool for the UK.

It did not include details.
Knowing your penchant for presentation and misinterpretation of data., I wouldn't be surprised if you misrepresented that data.

Show us the details of those returned from UK to other countries.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

How many people do we grant asylum or protection to?

www.gov.uk

Thank you. The data proves you wrong.

7.1 Transfers into the UK and out of the UK under the Dublin regulation, 2015 to 2017​

Year	Transfers in to the UK	Transfers out of the UK
2015	131	510
2016	558	362
2017	461	314

For those who can't count or add up, especially mbk, there were 1150 transfers in to UK, and 1186 transfers out of UK, over the three years indicated. A difference of 36 more transferred out of UK.
That proves mbk's claim nonsense.
Furthermore, it illustrates how mbk will willfully misrepresent data, but a quick analysis proves him wrong.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

stick to one user name and drop the racial and religious hatred and people might.., just might extend you the courtesy.

More baseless accusations.
Show me any racial and religious hatred that I have posted.
Or any proof that I am using more than one user name.
Or will you be like Dick Turpin and slink away?

Another example of Dick Turpin's tactic to divert the discussion.

You really are showing your true colours today.

 

[motorbiking]

Thank you. The data proves you wrong.

7.1 Transfers into the UK and out of the UK under the Dublin regulation, 2015 to 2017​

Year	Transfers in to the UK	Transfers out of the UK
2015	131	510
2016	558	362
2017	461	314

For those who can't count or add up, especially mbk, there were 1150 transfers in to UK, and 1186 transfers out of UK, over the three years indicated. A difference of 36 more transferred out of UK.
That proves mbk's claim nonsense.
Furthermore, it illustrates how mbk will willfully misrepresent data, but a quick analysis proves him wrong.

I posted that already and the net 36. why don't you then look at 2018 data - and weep.

How many people do we grant asylum or protection to?

www.gov.uk

In 2018, there were 1,940 requests from other member states to transfer individuals into the UK under the Dublin Regulation, and 5,510 requests from the UK to transfer individuals out of the UK to other member states. Over the same period, there were 1,215 transfers into the UK under the Dublin Regulation. The majority (946) of these transfers came from Greece. There were 209 transfers out of the UK under the Dublin Regulation. A quarter of these (51) were transfers to France.

What a great tool Dublin was.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

I posted that already and the net 36. why don't you then look at 2018 data - and weep.

How many people do we grant asylum or protection to?

www.gov.uk

In 2018, there were 1,940 requests from other member states to transfer individuals into the UK under the Dublin Regulation, and 5,510 requests from the UK to transfer individuals out of the UK to other member states. Over the same period, there were 1,215 transfers into the UK under the Dublin Regulation. The majority (946) of these transfers came from Greece. There were 209 transfers out of the UK under the Dublin Regulation. A quarter of these (51) were transfers to France.

What a great tool Dublin was.

2018? 2 years after the Brexit vote. And who was in power in UK?
What a great decision Brexit was!
Brexit means Brexit.
And it also meant that the Tory government were in disarray.

Other countries were able to get their act in gear and make the transfers before it was too late.
UK government were so busy untangling cotton wool they took their eyes off the ball.

 

[motorbiking]

2018? 2 years after the Brexit vote. And who was in power in UK?
What a great decision Brexit was!
Brexit means Brexit.
And it also meant that the Tory government were in disarray.

Other countries were able to get their act in gear and make the transfers before it was too late.
UK government were so busy untangling cotton wool they took their eyes off the ball.

not true.

source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.u...iii-regulation-will-it-be-affected-by-brexit/

Good old Johny English playing by the rules while everyone in the rest of the EU took the p***
No wonder people voted Brexit.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

not true.

source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.u...iii-regulation-will-it-be-affected-by-brexit/

Good old Johny English playing by the rules why everyone in the rest of the EU took the p***
No wonder people voted Brexit.

Now I understand the description of 'flag shagger'.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

not true.

source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.u...iii-regulation-will-it-be-affected-by-brexit/

Good old Johny English playing by the rules while everyone in the rest of the EU took the p***
No wonder people voted Brexit.

It was Brexit that caused the government (including the civil service) to waste resources on trying to sort out Brexit instead of getting on with properly running the country.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

2) Push backs aren’t possible, aren’t legal where a boat is in distress, which most of them are.

Greek coastguards still manage it though. Maybe there's fewer do-gooders in Greece.

And by the way, the chancers in these boats put themselves in distress.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Is this Himmy the full ticket?

If it wasn't for the reach of the internet, he would have just remained the idiot in his village.

 

[blup]

Currently they don't even bother to take enough fuel, because they know the RNLI taxi service will rescue them.

It’s not a taxi service it’s a life saving service, when Prime Minister Far rage cuts it you might have reason to complain

 

[noseall]

How are you getting on arguing that the Dublin resettlement scheme

Me? I'm not personally reliant upon it unlike our Government was, billy.

Nosenout hates Brexit and keeps listing the benefits.

Nonsense...
One of Kemi Badenoch's top team has admitted there were flaws in the plan to return illegal migrants after Brexit, Sky News can reveal.

Boris Johnson repeatedly told the public that Brexit would mean taking back control of Britain's borders and migration system.

But in a leaked recording obtained by Sky News, Chris Philp, now shadow home secretary, said Britain's exit from the EU - and end of UK participation in the Dublin agreement which governs EU-wide asylum claims - meant they realised they "can't any longer rely on sending people back to the place where they first claimed asylum".

Brexit - utter pile of shít.

Control of our borders my arse.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Greek coastguards still manage it though. Maybe there's fewer do-gooders in Greece.

ReganandCarter obviously supports the murder of asylum seekers.

The Greek coastguard has caused the deaths of dozens of migrants in the Mediterranean over a three-year period, witnesses say, including nine who were deliberately thrown into the water.

Greek coastguard threw migrants overboard to their deaths, witnesses say

More than 40 people are alleged to have died as a result of Greek coastguard actions, BBC analysis reveals.

www.bbc.co.uk

And by the way, the chancers in these boats put themselves in distress.

It's usually a case of die at the hands of whoever is persecuting them, or die in the water.
Did I see a report that ReganandCarter was prepared to shoot asylum seekers on British beaches?
I bet he would be jumping with joy at such incidents as this:

The European Court of Human Rights ruled against Greece for violating the right to life when coastguards intercepted a motorboat carrying migrants, firing shots that caused a Syrian man's death.

https://balkaninsight.com/2024/01/16/european-court-censures-greece-for-firing-shots-at-migrant-boat/

 

[transam]

Looks like Albania has rejected Statmers policy of shipping migrants to Albania

Bribe to small ?? Not enough plod to deal with the expected increase in crime ????

Apparently he is now looking to Bosnia Serbia and Macedonia for some where to ship the migrants ??

He will probably set up some new task force with a turbo charged mission to sort it ?? Basically put a number on the finacial package ( bribe)

Why else would these countries want to have a load of dead beats dumped into there society ?

They will need the extra cash in order to bolster there plod to deal with the rise in crime

Bosniastan
Serbastan

 

[Deleted member 323070]

If it wasn't for the reach of the internet, he would have just remained the idiot in his village.

And now he's an enigma.