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Streets of Rage
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Thing is laws are already in place to tackle drunkeness in a public place, fighting in the street, and the usual abhorrent behaviour of the Friday night yobs.
Problem with these laws are they are hopelessly out of date (at least the punishments are)
What government should do, is update the penalties for the existing laws, to reflect the income of the people causing it.
Example,, Some young person who's going out at the weekend to get wrecked senseless, has to have money to pay for it. Therefore they have a job. If they cause trouble and get arrested,, Lock them up till first thing Monday morning. Haul them in front of the Sheriff's court. Find out how much they earn and how much they usually spend on getting drunk. Lets say they spend £50 on a Friday getting blootered,,, The Sheriff wants them off the street for say 3 months, so the fine is 12 x £50 = £600, payable either immediately, or in weekly installments of £50.
Let's say they commit a second offence. The Sheriff decides he wants them off for 6 months,, 24 x £50 = £1200, payable as before, plus a weekend curfew starting at 6pm on a Friday and ending at 6am on the Monday.
Only problem I see with this is the "Human Rights brigade telling everyone "It's against their human rights to not be able to get drunk." and believe me the human rights brigade would kick up such a stink, any such penalties for alcohol related crime etc would soon be repealed..
In all of this though, the Human Rights brigade have forgot all about the most important group of people,,,,,,,,,,,,, Yep,,,,,,,, The Victims (you know them, the ones who enjoyed the same human rights now being applied to the drunken tw@ts)
Problem with these laws are they are hopelessly out of date (at least the punishments are)
What government should do, is update the penalties for the existing laws, to reflect the income of the people causing it.
Example,, Some young person who's going out at the weekend to get wrecked senseless, has to have money to pay for it. Therefore they have a job. If they cause trouble and get arrested,, Lock them up till first thing Monday morning. Haul them in front of the Sheriff's court. Find out how much they earn and how much they usually spend on getting drunk. Lets say they spend £50 on a Friday getting blootered,,, The Sheriff wants them off the street for say 3 months, so the fine is 12 x £50 = £600, payable either immediately, or in weekly installments of £50.
Let's say they commit a second offence. The Sheriff decides he wants them off for 6 months,, 24 x £50 = £1200, payable as before, plus a weekend curfew starting at 6pm on a Friday and ending at 6am on the Monday.
Only problem I see with this is the "Human Rights brigade telling everyone "It's against their human rights to not be able to get drunk." and believe me the human rights brigade would kick up such a stink, any such penalties for alcohol related crime etc would soon be repealed..
In all of this though, the Human Rights brigade have forgot all about the most important group of people,,,,,,,,,,,,, Yep,,,,,,,, The Victims (you know them, the ones who enjoyed the same human rights now being applied to the drunken tw@ts)
Instead of taking up the police's and the courts' time, why not just drive troublesome drunks ten miles (or maybe twenty for the right ba$tards) out into the countryside, then let them go?
By the time they've walked home, they'll be in no fit state to cause any more trouble.
By the time they've walked home, they'll be in no fit state to cause any more trouble.
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Not if they were dropped in the middle of nowhere. A freezing cold, rainy night would be best.
A lot of this about drunken yobs on Friday nights and fighting in the streets is media myth and misunderstanding. I'm not saying it doesn't happen - just that it's nothing new and is vastly over reported. My neighbour is a DI but was on the streets up until about 5 years ago and a bloke I play cricket with is a beat copper. They've both done the streets late Fridays and Saturdays for years so they've seen it all first hand. Both say, independently, the same thing; 90% of problems are caused by a small number of mentally ill individuals - time and time again. They arrest them, lock them up, send them to court, the courts let them go, next weekend they arrest them again. Over and over again. There's nothing they can do with them. They are mental cases and completely incapable of functioning normally. They get the odd one in between but they don't really see those as the problem. They tend to sleep, pay the fine and leave. Just like youngsters have been doing for more or less ever - except the fine. When you lot did it you got sent on your way but no fine.
Broadmoor?
Just watching yet another crime programme on TV showing such things as evil yobs knocking an innocent man to the floor, robbing him and then stamping on his head for good measure. Another one smashing his fist into the side of a young woman's head from behind and knocking her unconscious.
It angers me that these people seem to get away with such things with minimal sentences, then go on to do the same things again.
Why can't these wastes of space just be quietly disposed of? I can't imagine that anyone would miss them.
It angers me that these people seem to get away with such things with minimal sentences, then go on to do the same things again.
Why can't these wastes of space just be quietly disposed of? I can't imagine that anyone would miss them.
We need to start getting rid of the 'lunatic never to be released' people.
Who needs or wants to pay for them to sit in comfy chairs and medicated off their nuts all day.
We need more room in prisons for the ever increasing up and coming scum.
Who needs or wants to pay for them to sit in comfy chairs and medicated off their nuts all day.
We need more room in prisons for the ever increasing up and coming scum.
Or holes in the ground.
I was talking to a guy last week who is a nurse in Ashworth (Brady's place of residence).
He was saying that their most violent prisoners are ex cons who've spent most of their time body building and doing their heads in on drugs.
Their answer to that is to medicate them to fck so they don't know what day it is.
As you say, what's the point? It would only take one dose of the right meddy and it would be game over.
Sooey, It's good to see you back.
I watched a documentary the other week about broadmoor. F*ck me the inmates rule the roost. What's all that about.
We need to start getting rid of these people and changing the system, surely.
Then give the prison officers the backing they need to control these yobs.
At the moment if a prisoner says he is in severe pain and needs to go to hospital the authorities bend over backwards to accommodate their wishes. They are escorted to hospital under guard, always with at least two wardens, sent straight through past triage, seen by a doctor within 5 minutes who then usually says he has to stay for a while for observation. Meanwhile, two wardens or policemen are sat there twiddling their thumbs baby sitting the little shyte! After about 4 hours, (in which time frame genuine patients have been delayed/ignored), the little shyte decides he wants to go back to his cosy cell and play on his x-box or something!
When he first complained of bad guts they should have given him a massive dose of cod liver oil to clear him out!
At the moment if a prisoner says he is in severe pain and needs to go to hospital the authorities bend over backwards to accommodate their wishes. They are escorted to hospital under guard, always with at least two wardens, sent straight through past triage, seen by a doctor within 5 minutes who then usually says he has to stay for a while for observation. Meanwhile, two wardens or policemen are sat there twiddling their thumbs baby sitting the little shyte! After about 4 hours, (in which time frame genuine patients have been delayed/ignored), the little shyte decides he wants to go back to his cosy cell and play on his x-box or something!
When he first complained of bad guts they should have given him a massive dose of cod liver oil to clear him out!
Perhaps prisoners should be given something to do to keep them occupied, and I don't mean pool tables and televisions.
If every prisoner in the country was given an exercise bike with an attached electrical generator and incentivised (by the offer of food and drink*) to work on it for several hours a day, we wouldn't need all these expensive windmills would we?
(* I was thinking of something like 1kWh of electricity = 1 sandwich and a glass of water.)
If every prisoner in the country was given an exercise bike with an attached electrical generator and incentivised (by the offer of food and drink*) to work on it for several hours a day, we wouldn't need all these expensive windmills would we?
(* I was thinking of something like 1kWh of electricity = 1 sandwich and a glass of water.)
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