Sturgeon red faced... Using trans people for political gain..

The Scottish nationalists have problems within such as Alex Salmon forming his breakaway party (alba party) who objected to Sturgeons trans law. Whose to say there won't be a swing to his party come the next election.
It would stop the snp and their independence voting if so.
 
But, it isn’t their major policy. This is what Sturgeon said before the 2015 election;
”Sturgeon: A vote for SNP is not a vote for independence”
She lied, as soon as the votes were counted she started singing the same old song.
Welcome to politics.

But if she and her party keep getting voted in, what do you expect ? It is exactly the same with the Tories
 
If the snp keep getting voted in with that as their major policy, it has to be addressed, yes
The problem is that with the voting system that is in place at the moment the SNP take power in Scotland even though, at the last election, only 28% of Scottish voters voted for them. I think that is why the SNP claim to have a mandate for independence is incorrect. Having said that let them have their independence referendum if they want one and see what happens.
 
The problem is that with the voting system that is in place at the moment the SNP take power in Scotland even though, at the last election, only 28% of Scottish voters voted for them. I think that is why the SNP claim to have a mandate for independence is incorrect. Having said that let them have their independence referendum if they want one and see what happens.
Same argument all over the country.

First past the post suits the parties in power, and to a large extent their main challengers.

Those in power don't want to lose it, and love to change targets to help keep it.
 
we also had a vote on that too over 10 years ago. 68% said no.

shall we have another vote?

its human nature for some, that when they lose, they try to justify that actually they won or it was rigged or it was the wrong questions. or or , or
No, there was a vote on a *******ised version of PR that many didn't understand or didn't care about....

I wonder why the idea that every person's vote would actually count wasn't on that ballot paper? ;)
 
We had one.
Who did?

As far as I know Scotland voted to remain in the EU...

After having being promised that the only way they would stay in the EU would be to reject independence...

Where have you been for the last decade? :rolleyes:
 
No, there was a vote on a *******ised version of PR that many didn't understand or didn't care about....

I wonder why the idea that every person's vote would actually count wasn't on that ballot paper? ;)
Another thing he got wrong .
 
Independence is indeed inevitable...

Brexiteers have guaranteed that, since the destruction of the UK appears to be their goal whether they understand that or not!

But Sturgeon is employing the same tactic as happened over clause 28...

Make a minor legal dispute into a game changer (y)

I am all
In favour of Scotland gaining independace

Win win situation for all concerned imo

So as I see it The SNP should be grateful to those of us that voted brexit
 

I agree with this decision, the system would be open to abuse, and 16 year olds shouldn't be able to make such a life changing decision. Lastly women's rights shouldn't be pushed aside in favour of trans.
I think this whole tedious trans waffle, or at least the recent bill on it, has been very cleverly engineered by sturgeon to forward her indy crap.

Of everything that is going wrong in Scotland, Briton, The World; the economic mess, the strikes, the NHS, Ukraine....
And all these numpties in hollyrood can focus on is folk who can't quite work out what sex they should be. It makes no sense.
 
Devolution is the devolving of responsibility without any real power.
The real power at Westminster gives the devolved regions a fixed amount of money every year and lets them distribute it as they see fit, it means any complaints about who gets what is directed at the local politcians in the devolved regions and lets the national government off the hook.
When it comes to serious issues, the real power at Westminster can step in without the consent of the devolved government and impose any law they want.
It happened it Northern Ireland with the law on abortion being imposed without the consent of the local assembly.
As far as i remember Nicola Sturgeon was in favour of the UK governments unilateral imposition of abortion law on Ulster.
So, whats goes round comes round, Nicola and the SNP should suck it up and know their place in the political hierarchy.
 
The problem is that with the voting system that is in place at the moment the SNP take power in Scotland even though, at the last election, only 28% of Scottish voters voted for them. I think that is why the SNP claim to have a mandate for independence is incorrect. Having said that let them have their independence referendum if they want one and see what happens.
Of those who voted in 2019, 45% voted SNP. However, although that's by far the biggest share of the vote, they still don't 'speak for' the majority of Scots (based on the vote) although they LOVE to say 'on behalf of the Scottish people ...'

 
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