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And yet it is correct. and no they would not apply under the immigration process that is used for non-refugees.
 
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And yet it is correct.
You seem to understand the procedures and requirements.

Pity our Government can't actually control the situation and return people accordingly. Why is that? Lack of an effective system in place? Or maybe they want a certain demographic to be angry?
 
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If you had your head screwed on properly, you'd realise why he was asking!

He basically got her in a corner where she could only say "they would have to come by boat", which she didn't want to admit to.


More illegals come by air I believe?
 
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@Notch7 2,000,000 x £4,258 per month - there may be room physically, but the costs are huge, even with economy of scale.
@Pat ex wrong as usual https://www.gov.uk/settlement-refugee-or-humanitarian-protection/family-reunion
Yes but it gets Andy going (y)

on a serious note, the UK needs to invest in the immigration system, there are far too many visa overstayers, too many asylum claimants disappearing under the radar and claims processing is taking way too long.

Why were some people from Manston taken to a London train station and left. I just don’t get it.
 
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At a loss why they are not allowed to work under supervised conditions, with so much unemployment and a system - and home secretary - that aren't fit for purpose.

Blup

Idle people with no money means bored people.

The devil makes work for idle hands
 
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When I first started using GD
On the subject of Immigration I asked Elle what do you consider is top limit to Immigration.?


Notch who at the time was a right wing brexiteer.

Replied; I've ask him this question many times....... he won't answer.
Perhaps he doesn't know?

You would need to know how many people are leaving the UK, arriving in the UK, who intends to stay, who intends to work, who is here simply on holiday, how many are dying, how many job vacancies need filling etc. Its more of a dynamic rather than a set number.
 
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And yet it is correct. and no they would not apply under the immigration process that is used for non-refugees.
What part of the following are you struggling with:
Family members who are not in the UK and not included in the application for protection will not be granted leave in line. Instead, the Home Office makes provision in the Immigration Rules to allow for recognised refugees or those granted humanitarian protection to bring their family
The immigration rules contain an income test. There are other hurdles to overcome, as previously mentioned.
 
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still wrong (again).
There is no requirement to show adequate maintenance and accommodation without recourse to public funds and refugee family members are exempt from the minimum income threshold of £18,600. A refugee can be in receipt of welfare benefits but still sponsor his or her family members to come to the UK if the other requirements are met.
 
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still wrong (again).

Just shows how the Government make the policy so difficult to understand, and meet the requirements, and needs a refugee charity to interpret it:
Our mission is to make good quality and clear information available to all those affected by immigration control: migrants themselves, their families, their lawyers and their judges. Immigration law has become very complex in the UK and changes very rapidly; we make it simple, or at least understandable.

The application process is arduous, difficult and dangerous.

If your family are outside the UK​

Each of your family members must apply for family reunion through the government’s visa website. In addition to this application, each of your family members should fill in the family settlement application form (VAF4A) and the Appendix 4 to it. They must also get their fingerprints and photograph taken at a visa application centre.

It will always be necessary to travel to a visa application centre, even where this is very difficult or dangerous.
From your link

And the required proof of relationship is arduous and frequently impossible to meet:

Proof of family relationship​

The Home Office guidance states that applicants should include the following documents with their application to confirm they are related as claimed. If you have any of these and are applying for family reunion, you should include as many of these as you possibly can, as they are crucial to persuading the Home Office that you are who you say you are.

  • marriage certificates
  • traditional marriage ceremony documents
  • documents relating to accommodation or joint purchases
  • DNA evidence offered voluntarily at the applicant’s expense from an accredited laboratory as set out in Home Office DNA policy guidance on gov.uk at: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dna-policy
  • birth certificates
  • adoption orders etc

From your link

And in addition, if they become UK citizens, they must apply under the normal immigration rules.
If a refugee becomes a British citizen, however, he or she loses the right to refugee family reunion and will need to apply for family members using the normal immigration rules.
Again from your link
 
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Apparently I've had a post deleted in this thread.
Anyone any idea which one it was? Or why?
I have no idea (about which post was deleted or why) added for when someone quotes me. ;)
 
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Suella will get to grips with this caper

She is the best person for the job
On the ball and clued up ;)
 
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