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suggest fitting(s) for redirecting soil pipe flow

Discussion in 'Plumbing and Central Heating' started by Zips23, 18 Apr 2020.

  1. Zips23

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    I was wondering if someone might be able to recommend some fittings for our drain. Pictures below.

    We need a fitting (or several) to add a bend and redirect waste towards the main sewer. We had a loft conversion done a little while ago and they re-used the iron vent pipe to direct waste down to the sewer. The problem is that it's is not directed correctly so sewage just builds up on the opposite side of the inspection chamber. We're not in a position to get that loft conversion company back.

    I think I could fit a bend and point it down flow but one challenge is the pipe ends with a 4" clay hole without a recess or edge to clamp a connector. Not sure if I can just jam in a plastic fitting or perhaps weld some solvent (between clay and plastic). I guess I could chisel away some old cement but there's a risk I could cause unnecessary damage.

    Just looking for a quick fix (will likely be temporary too, eg 1y). Any suggestions appreciated.

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    Thanks for spotting @Gasguru. Inadvertently copied links rather than pictures. Should work now
     
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    Afraid there is no quick fix for that, the only thing I can suggest that might work without major upheaval is a 'Flexseal' bend, but you'd have to chip enough away around the pipe to get it on, then there's the issue of tightening the jubilee clip. https://www.toolstation.com/flexibl...i0Kk8RelgXG343Z4DQt5bYqi7lW3pnp8aAq2VEALw_wcB

    I would also question if Building Regs approval was obtained correctly for the work, very unlikely the BCO has allowed this connection to the drain, you may find you have issues at a later date if trying to sell the property, if work has been done and not signed off.
     
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    If they've used an old vent pipe, photos of soil pipe and vent may be of some use. Also if separate where the pipe exits the loft and where it connects to.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion. I think that's the way to go - chip away around the pipe and use a jubilee clipped couple; that or wait to get it done correctly after lockdown.

    It was approved by BC. In fact, I don't even recall them checking the drains. I made the mistake of allowing the building company to outsource the BC to their preferred supplier; thought they were all regulated and part of a prof body.
     
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    Building Control is done by the Local Council, precisely to try and avoid Builders getting away with shoddy work. You would have paid a fee, (may have been charged by your Builder), payable to the Council, for Building Control approval on the work, and it should have been checked/signed off at various stages. How much you get away with can vary, depends on how easy going the Building Inspector is, some are quite trusting!
     
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    In our case, prior to work starting we received a letter from the council stating that we'd agreed to appoint a private approved inspector to carry out BC function. The building company would have actually written to the council on our behalf. At the time we thought this is standard practice. In fact, I've previously seen similar outsourcing happen for other people's projects.

    In hindsight, perhaps private approved inspectors aren't as thorough as those working for the council; I'm not sure. The truth is, be it private or council BC - anyone can make mistakes and experienced contractors/subcontractors will find undetectable (to client or BC) ways to cut corners.

    From our experience with this loft conversion company, we found/raised so many issues and corners cut (even after final BC sign off) that at some point we had to decide to accept what we had was safe and we would resolve any further issues discovered; for example this drain.
     
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