T&G cladding a room what order of install?

[Stringman_uk]

Hi all
I am finally finishing off the summerhouse and the last bit to do is the internal walls.
These are being clad with horizontal T&G.
The room is 2.8m x 2.5m with the longest walls being the back wall and front (75% windows and doors)
I was intending to start with the back wall but wondered if I should do the whole back wall (top to bottom) then do each side?
Or do one row at a time (back and two sides)

Does it make any difference?
Which is better?
or easier?

Thanks in advance

 

[foxhole]

I would do complete walls, one at a time.

 

[big-all]

general comments

assuming its ex 1/2"x 4"its finnished size and coverage is 7.5mm 88mm so will need good support along its length perhaps 16-20" with added support behind if anything at all is to be added to the surface

what size cladding are you using ??

 

[Stringman_uk]

general comments

assuming its ex 1/2"x 4"its finnished size and coverage is 7.5mm 88mm so will need good support along its length perhaps 16-20" with added support behind if anything at all is to be added to the surface

what size cladding are you using ??

big-all
the T&G is 19 x 100mm. it is going to be secret nailed to the vertical wall joists (4x2) which are about 50cm apart.
There probably wont be much added to the surface , but if there is I will try yo make it on the joists

 

[big-all]

dont forget they are thinner and about 88mm coverage after machining but will be solid enough so you need 14% more than you think

 

[Stringman_uk]

dont forget they are thinner and about 88mm coverage after machining but will be solid enough so you need 14% more than you think

Sadly That helpful info came too late.
After spending another £160 so that there would be no joins at all anywhere I realised I had based my measurements on the finished size not the face size !! DOH
Anyway due to budgets and timescale I have accepted I need to have some joins on the side walls ( back is already finished and front only has two planks worth of a full run)
So this leads to my next (and surely last) quandary.
The side walls are 227cm long.
I need 26 planks each side.
I have a total of 32 full size planks.

So my theory was to lay 2 full planks then 1 "joined plank" 2 more full planks and so on.

My only concern was would it look better to have a join on every plank run?
I feel that, for the amount of work and wastage its not really worth it , but wonder if it would look a bit strange?

When joining the boards is it better to do a straight edge cut on both boards or cut at 45 deg and but them up?

Many thanks as ever

 

[big-all]

you need to plan
iff all stud centres are identical then it wont make much difference material wise
iff you have a few odd ones[studs and planks ] then you may manage say 2 or 3 short from a plank
you may find an odd stud introduces in-between 2 structural at up to 2 points to use maximum material and may involve 3 bits along the run just make sure you aim for at least 1 solid plank above and below every joint hopeful 2 or more to stop the eye being drawn
joints below the waist and above the shoulder will be less obvious

 

[Stringman_uk]

you need to plan
iff all stud centres are identical then it wont make much difference material wise
iff you have a few odd ones[studs and planks ] then you may manage say 2 or 3 short from a plank
you may find an odd stud introduces in-between 2 structural at up to 2 points to use maximum material and may involve 3 bits along the run just make sure you aim for at least 1 solid plank above and below every joint hopeful 2 or more to stop the eye being drawn
joints below the waist and above the shoulder will be less obvious

Thanks
I have enough planks that if I use a join, there will only be one join per run ( annoyingly the wall is 2270 and the "whole" planks are 4200, I have 32 planks of 1930 and at least 30 of 1200. So there is no problem with using 2 smaller planks even accounting for stud ( 550 apart from memory)
I should be able to have 2 solid planks between each joined planks and should be able to space them so that the joins are middle (2 solid planks) left join( 2 solid planks)right join, and so on.
One thing that I realised is that there wouldnt be any more waste if I were to cut a join on each plank, as all I would lose on that plank is the thickness of the blade. Just lots more hassle!
What do you think?

 

[big-all]

if it going to be a pattern it may not look right if it doesn't appear random if you have lots the same joining on say 2 joists 3 ft appart it will look better all in a strait line with a thin say 6mm thick 15mm wide trim over the join
try doing a drawing and see what you think or wait for others to comment

 

[big-all]

somthing like this its flat with a small pencil round on the face

Wickes Light Hardwood D-shape Moulding - 18 x 6 x 2400mm | Wickes.co.uk

Wickes Light Hardwood D-shape Moulding - 18 x 6 x 2400mm

www.wickes.co.uk

 

[Stringman_uk]

Thanks for the reply.
I only have 3 joists to work on, So I did end up going on a set pattern. I did 2 full boards then a middle joist join, 2 full boards then the left, 2 full, then the right. It actually looks pretty good, would have finished it but my nail gun has decided to die!!!
Thanks for all your help.
Off to try and source a nail gun now!

 

[Mike13]

https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-electric-nailer-stapler/p/831379765122600

supposed to be in stores tomorrow or so.

 

[big-all]

ok glad to help thanks for getting back to let us know it makes it all worth it

as an aside
i have been making pine furniture for over 30 years and all the sides and doors have 2x1planed pine to make up frames with a rebate to take was 9mm txg cladding now 7.5mm as infill panels for the country look have made many hundreds ---now it could be your turn

 

[big-all]

https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-electric-nailer-stapler/p/831379765122600

supposed to be in stores tomorrow or so.

the 4v i suspect should be 240v looks not a bad price and i assume 18 gauge 25-32mm are perfect for 7.2mm cladding

 

[Stringman_uk]

sadly not man enough for my requirements.
I had the 15g ryobi airstrike which was pretty good.
I like the 15g size and I dont think I can justify the price of the new de walt 15g