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Tests required where property let

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by DP, 26 Oct 2017.

  1. DP

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    What is the periodicity for electrical tests for let property
    Hot water is from unvented cylinder ( no storage cisterns) Is legionella testing required for such a system?

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    As far as I know there's no legal minimum, but some suggest every change of tenant for a EICR, as well as the standard domestic frequency of 10 years.
    If a previous tenant left a dangerous situation after changing a light fitting, the landlord would be liable (I moved into one flat with exposed live wires just above eye level from this issue)
    Unvented system safety devices should be checked every year but that's not an electrical test.
    Legionella is the same for any cylinder, the water should achieve 60c regularly.
     
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    I can do the unvented as I have the ticket for it, but cannot understand why legionella check on hot owater systeem
     
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    I've never heard of a legionella check either, who told you that? If it were air con with a spray condenser or some other high risk system I could understand it, but for a DHW cylinder just set the thermostat to 60 and leave it be.
     
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    :(Been charged for that test
     
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    How much? Maybe they just write it down to get some money while they're having their sandwiches.
     
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    Do not know but will be main inquiries
    You could be right about a break time and getting paid for it
     
  9. Electrical test would normally be 10 yearly, but if you are in a controlled area, then they'll ask for 5 yearly checks. A visual check should be sufficient to tell you whether another test is needed between tenants, but it's good to have a consumer unit with an RCD, as that'd give a better warning at any point in the tennacy.

    For Legionella, you need to make an assessment as to the risks, and this must be given to the tenant when they sign the contract, and it's best to get them to sign a copy for you, and to mark on the tenancy agreement that they've received it. As there is an unvented cylinder you would advise them that the temperature on the cylinder has been set to 60 to kill any bacteria, but they should run the hot tap for a few minutes with the windows open if the property has been empty since the previous tenants.
     
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    Nor have I heard of such a test being undertaken routinely for DHW. However, I suppose there might be an argument for it if there were a jacuzzi or suchlike (or maybe even a pumped shower) - would you classify that as a 'high risk system'?

    Kind Regards, John
     
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  11. There's no test required, just an assessment of any potential risks. If you don't give the assessment to the tenants before they move in, then they won't be able to take them to court to get them out.
     
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    Not according to the link I posted above. It says there's no need to document the assessment at all.

    Are you thinking about the deposit protection certificate? You can't evict if you don't provide that, that's the only thing I can think of that would prevent it.
     
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    Legionella assessment is not a legal requirement at all. I'm sure the government will push for it in the future as it's all a money making racket anyway. Many companies that provide all that EPC garbage have already been done for lying to dumb landlords about it being mandatory to get yet another test fee out of them. Watch this space.
     
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    You've obviously never rented if you think deposit protection or gas safety certificates are a money making racket.
     
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    I'm also puzzled about this.

    Are you saying that you can give tenants a list of potential risks - e.g. shower faulty, electric shock from oven if you touch it, juliet balcony held up with duct tape - rather than rectify any faults, then it's ok?
     
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