The answer to the NHS is not more money.

[gasbanni]

It needs a shake up ......whistle blowers are treated like pariahs.
Instead of their concerns being looked at every attempt is made to shut them up and pay them off.

As for the BMAC enough said. Bumped it to some friends and if his wife had not been on the ball I've no doubt he wouldn't be here.
What's needed in the NHS is a culture change ....thats it's there for the patients not the staff. A report a while back had a similar view.

Junior doctors strike ......that was about money and they didn't want to work weekends when the figures point to it as a necessity.

 

[handyjack]

Junior Doctors have always worked weekends. It's the consultants that have the weekends off.

 

[transam]

most of the consultants probably only work for the NHS two (?) days a week ? rest of the time they are earning big bucks in some private clinic

When they actually work for the NHS they probably do no actual consulting after what 3 or 3.30pm ?? they need to get to the golf club ?

 

[blightymam]

When they actually work for the NHS they probably do no actual consulting after what 3 or 3.30pm ?? they need to get to the golf club ?

Forgive me if am wrong, the consultants I've seen do operations and consulting in the same day, so when they disappear, it's probably off to operate/treat.

Junior Doctors have always worked weekends. It's the consultants that have the weekends off.

Which is why they say don't get sick & go to hospital at the weekend.. scary stuff!

 

[woodbine]

Reforming the NHS is one option, but it can't cope with an ever rising population. Not without a rapid hospital building programme. Reforming it won't grow the number of beds, operating theatres, ambulances, etc, etc, etc

For instance, the maternity service is in crisis, Every 45 seconds, a woman gives birth in The UK. She must be found and stopped!!

 

[JohnD]

Reforming the NHS is one option, but it can't cope with an ever rising population...

...of old British people, needing more and more care and expense as they age.

The NHS needs active, younger people, to work as cleaners, cooks, nurses and doctors, and paying tax and NI to fund it. Where are they going to come from?

 

[woodbine]

Reforming the NHS is one option, but it can't cope with an ever rising population...

...of old British people, needing more and more care and expense as they age?

Must be all those octogenarians giving birth that cause all the problems.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...rth-rate-leaps-by-18-in-a-decade-9107483.html

 

[JohnD]

....he is unable to deny that the increase on load on the NHS comes from the increasing number of old British people, needing more and more care and expense as they age.

 

[HawkEye244]

Increased immigration + huge number of elderly people clogging up the NHS. The systems simply not designed for it no matter how much money they throw at it.

 

[HawkEye244]

....he is unable to deny that the increase on load on the NHS comes from the increasing number of old British people, needing more and more care and expense as they age.

I think elderly treatment on the NHS should be means tested. As the wealth is pooled in that age group surely it's only fair they pay for their treatment if they can afford to. Sounds harsh but the system cannot sustain itself without some something radical like that.

 

[blightymam]

I think elderly treatment on the NHS should be means tested. As the wealth is pooled in that age group surely it's only fair they pay for their treatment if they can afford to. Sounds harsh but the system cannot sustain itself without some something radical like that.

Not sure if I like that - they've also paid into the system (nat insurance) all their lives. I'd rather they increased nat insurance a bit... and sorted out money wasting in the NHS.

 

[JohnD]

Unfortunately that runs counter to the Conservative party's doctrine that the rich and the old should be able to hang onto their homes and wealth, and the (other) taxpayers should pick up the bill.

Do you remember when the staunchly Tory-supporting Telegraph said to its Tory-voting readers, "A new tax allowance for property owners of up to £1m is great news" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ritance-tax-perk-the-seven-key-questions.html

It is aimed specifically at benefitting people with valuable houses.
Coincidence?

Also the Care Cost Cap so that however rich you are, you don't have to pay the full cost.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30922484
Although it is designed so that, if you are not rich, it can soak up pretty well all your life savings. Very cunning.
Coincidence?

The Tories know which side their bread's buttered on.

 

[blightymam]

In the nicest possible way John, not everything has to be completely political although the NHS has been suffering in funding cuts for some time now due to Downing St.
Folk don't have to look hard to find story after story reported by the press to see how many ways that the NHS funds are wasted, squandered and all those millions or billions here and there add up to a hell of a lot of money. I don't think it's down to just old people or folk moving here, I really do think it's down to bad management, the fact that the NHS is run like an old boys club and there are just too many fingers in pies.

 

[handyjack]

....he is unable to deny that the increase on load on the NHS comes from the increasing number of old British people, needing more and more care and expense as they age.

I think elderly treatment on the NHS should be means tested. As the wealth is pooled in that age group surely it's only fair they pay for their treatment if they can afford to. Sounds harsh but the system cannot sustain itself without some something radical like that.

Agreed, the less you have paid in over time (NI) the more you pay for your treatment.

 

[bernardgreen]

+ huge number of elderly people clogging up the NHS.

Don't forget the young who are obese the young needing treatment for alcohol and / or drug related disease / injury. And paid no National Insurance

Those who have not registered with a doctor so turn up at A & E when their un-treated illness or injury has become critical and requires expensive treatment.

The cost of ambulance vehicles and crews dealing with accidents and life threatening injuries to people who have never paid a penny in National Insurance. Some have never earnt a penny in their life ( after age 16 ) but still expect free health service.

It isn't only the old who use NHS funding. In fact some old people use private medical health services which reduces the load on NHS facilities.