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durhamplumber said:
But many take it as fact!..There lies the root of the problem..brainless people choosing which bits of the bible are fact and influence many with their gross stupidity.
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My original point to you was about the moral aspect, you said it wasn't relevant .....I pointed out I think it's absolutely relevant, I gave you examples it's now your turn to prove your point.

In due course we can cover other points but I'm waiting to hear why it's morality is no longer valid.
 
EFLImpudence said:
Dinosaurs.



https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dinosaur-shocker-115306469/

Dinosaur soft tissue has its detractors who cannot accept it, it's now rather common place to find it when looked for.

Google dinosaur depictions an image search. Or better still visit Carlisle cathedral.

https://creation.com/bishop-bells-brass-behemoths

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=9&article=3533

On the brass image notice the spikes on the end of the tail.


From ancient Israel https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...d=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=Lab1nzA8qOtB7M:

Three toes and notice the dermal frill on its head ?


There's a lot of evidence dinosaurs and man were comptemporaries, something some people find difficult to accept ....there's tons of info out there about this subject.
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A little remiss of me .... Dinosaur was a term first used in the early nineteenth century. But the term Dragon and other names was used in the past ....a little like the Komodo ddagon an apt description after all dinosaurs were only reptiles.

So we have dragons ( dinosaurs ) occurring in literature, images on textiles, ceramics, all manner of ancient artifacts many of the images are accurate.
The problem occurs if you belive they died out millions of years before man came on the scene how could people have drawn such accurate images if they'd never seen one ? When in the nineteenth century they tried to imagine what the bones looked like they put together some laughable attempts to imagine how they looked.

https://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/ancient/dinosaur/

Then we have the unacceptable carbon dating of dinosaur fossils, unacceptable to people who cannot accept the results which are in tens of thousands of year not millions ......http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

To bring it to today since 1970 theres been a 60% reduction in the number of wild animals (invertebrates) pretty depressing. If you look how many tigers, lions, Rhinos and Elephants are left it's not hard to understand how dinosaurs could have been wiped out ....its refered to as the great extinction.

Mount St Helens provided a window in geological formation that puts the assumed timescale of things in to question.

https://creation.com/lessons-from-mount-st-helens
 
gasbanni said:
My original point to you was about the moral aspect, you said it wasn't relevant .....I pointed out I think it's absolutely relevant, I gave you examples it's now your turn to prove your point.

In due course we can cover other points but I'm waiting to hear why it's morality is no longer valid.
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Will reply to you in due course,,but bit busy today.Thanks
 
gasbanni said:
Other people having studied it think not.

https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/blog/blunts-undesigned-coincidences/

Blunts work is heavy reading compared to today, it was brought to my attention in a book called why a scientist believes the bible.
It shows by logic the Bible is an accurate narrative.
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"It shows by logic the bible is an accurate narrative" REALLY !...That is such a nonsense statement and so well documented its a waste of time debating..Its been debated for 2k years.If people seriously believe in virgin births,6days to create the cosmos,6k years ago,on and on...im out..
 
Gasbanni...do you believe the posts you place here,,or do you trawl the internet for videos and you see yourself as everyones devil advocate?
 
gasbanni said:
No, No, No. That's three things you've stated that strictly speaking are a terminological inexactitude ! In other words plainly wrong.
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Plainly wrong? You just said the bible is an accurate narrative?
 
So,,the earth is 6k years old?? So that discredits evolution completely then,it never hsppened at all..?? The universe is not billions of years old,radioactive rock dating is billions of years out,,all done by a god.Science is crap,,internal combustion engine,,jet,,invented by god,,,pixies wtf
 
durhamplumber said:
So,,the earth is 6k years old?? So that discredits evolution completely then,it never hsppened at all..?? The universe is not billions of years old,radioactive rock dating is billions of years out,,all done by a god.Science is crap,,internal combustion engine,,jet,,invented by god,,,pixies wtf
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Who said the earth has only been around six thousand years ? Certainly not me. There is no method of dating rocks ! They date the rocks by fossils in them and date the fossils by the rocks their in.......get the point ? It's a circular reasoning method. ( look up the mt St Helens link, rocks known for a fact to be only ten years old from the eruption were dated as 250,000,000 million years old ). Read it for yourself it's there.

Keep up with the argument for goodness sake watch / read the mounts St Helen's link and the link on carbon dating fossils you haven't read that either or you'd know your statement to me isn't what I believe. Please don't ascribe to me what you think I believe. If you want a serious discussion.

And by the way

 
EFLImpudence said:
Or - people have been around for over 65 million years.
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You tell me, the depiction are there. What's your explanation ?

In that old beowulf saga he killed the dragon by what means ? He pulled off one of its tiny front legs and it bled to death, evidently a junior creature what creature can you think off that has tiny front legs ? https://archive.org/stream/epicsagabeowulfs00newyuoft/epicsagabeowulfs00newyuoft_djvu.txt

North American legends talk about thunder birds with the wing span of two war canoes ( bbc documentary ), Oddly enough the venerable Bede ( quoted in this scepter ed Isle by the BBC ) refers to a very severe storm and reports of dragons been seen flying. 40 foot Wingspan fossils have been found.

So we have two ancient reports from opposite sides of the world of flying creatures with enormous wingspan been seen when there are storms on the move, odd that two reports of flying creatures flying away from storms should be so similar , perhaps they flew away from storms because of their delicate wings. Seen by North American Indians when thunder occured hence thunder birds.

A little light reading

https://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/ancient/dinosaur/
 
The thing is. If you follow the evolution through random events to its natural end you will conclude that there are multiple universes. Why? Well the constant that govern our universe must also have been random if not intellegenrly designed. e.g the speed of light, force of gravity etc. Change those and our universe would not exist. Therefore there must be multiple universes some of which have collapsed that might also exist. The chances of the big bang being right first time is highly unlikely, when you consider this.

Having said all that i’m of the view that the universe is around 15bn years old not 6000
 
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