The Bible tells

[breadnbutter]

I am not the 1 getting conned. I am not buying it.

its not for sale, its a gift , you could never afford the price if it was a payment, no one can, never in all eternity , so how can you be conned with a gift, you get conned when you go into false religions works based religions,, thinking your ok, when in fact your in peril. or you con yourself thinking its a load of nonsense, without research ,and missing out on the greatest hope man has ever had.

 

[mrcrow]

That's quite good analogy.

You mean you can't go where you want; only where you are led by ancient human writings (tracks).

Get a 4 x 4 and be free to think for yourself.

that is good thinking too...i like that..
no its not human writings but close...it is to do with humans and relationships...and differs with everyone
eventually those tracks become worn out the passage gets difficult and needs repair
only yourself would recognise this....christianity is what christians would suggest is helpful..but the real leader is you.

 

[mrcrow]

Easy to sell to religious people, if they believe in a god they will believe anything.

you dont sell to religion to religious people...they are already sold....the only people who can buy are far from being religious and dont want to be....i am not religious...
the definition...from the latin religare...to bind up as in without freedom of choice or unquestionin...as you have pointed out...some christians dont ask awkward questions and so are bound up consequently giving their leaders the ability to control....its called the subtle use of spiritual abuse...threats in other words
mainstream stuff!!!!

 

[durhamplumber]

“To be born again”. Please please,,stop believing that utter utter shyttte,,so sad,pathetic and brainless that sentient so called intelligent people believe that.

 

[mrcrow]

“To be born again”. Please please,,stop believing that utter utter shyttte,,so sad,pathetic and brainless that sentient so called intelligent people believe that.

its a phrase verbatim from the bible so it hasnt really been 'updated' in meaning
it has been hackneyed by our brothers and sisters across the pond...
it only means that your were born once by flesh and so not quite complete as to have gained faith in Jesus
it only pertains to a person after conversion but neednt really be used as a bashing tool...not fair to those who understand...just as a trainee needs to be given certain facts in learning his trade to allow the 'secrets of the trade' to mean something..
its a slogan...i dont use it
but it does make you chaps get the point...you can be born again...

 

[foxhole]

you dont sell to religion to religious people...they are already sold....the only people who can buy are far from being religious and dont want to be....i am not religious...
the definition...from the latin religare...to bind up as in without freedom of choice or unquestionin...as you have pointed out...some christians dont ask awkward questions and so are bound up consequently giving their leaders the ability to control....its called the subtle use of spiritual abuse...threats in other words
mainstream stuff!!!!

Never mentioned selling religion ????

 

[mrcrow]

Never mentioned selling religion ????

no way....its free...some religions arent and a lot require certain bodily movements and dressing up gear, and adherence to out dated fabulous untrue stories...
the white sheet is thrown in but you need to give some of your pocket money to get in..

there is a bit in the bible about camels and needles....money wont get you in
neither does intellect and theology
one of the greatest thinking minds of the 20th century and an atheist....got born again...
and wrote exceptionally good books...
the chronicles of narnia..
c.s.lewis

he would explain it better than i, read 'mere christianity.'

 

[mrcrow]

why dont you chaps, if you think it will help google
christian footballers, managers, coaches
christian rugby players
christian racing drivers
christian boxers
christian rock musicians.....

https://www.viralbeliever.com/11-rock-music-legends-who-found-jesus/

christian whoever you wish

worth a whirl

 

[EFLImpudence]

Likely not worth a whirl.

It is very sad and depressing to see in an interview at the end of a sporting event, a player thank god for their victory - seemingly ignoring the fact that, if true, then the other player or team did not have god's help.

I wonder why this could be. Perhaps next weekend he will have changed his mind.

 

[durhamplumber]

its not for sale, its a gift , you could never afford the price if it was a payment, no one can, never in all eternity , so how can you be conned with a gift, you get conned when you go into false religions works based religions,, thinking your ok, when in fact your in peril. or you con yourself thinking its a load of nonsense, without research ,and missing out on the greatest hope man has ever had.

At least the bible bashers have dropped Satan from their nauseous preaching,25 years ago Sundays were all about evils of Satan for anything bad,,,well,the devil and mans free will! Free will still comes in for a lot of flack from the Jesus lovers. that and “speaking in tongues” properly lost the crowd.

 

[sodthisforfun]

it only means that your were born once by flesh and so not quite complete as to have gained faith in Jesus

See, this is where I have problems, 'not quite complete' because had no faith in Jesus.

Patronising at best.

 

[durhamplumber]

See, this is where I have problems, 'not quite complete' because had no faith in Jesus.

Patronising at best.

At worst,,,certifiable delusional nonsense.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Unbeknown to me, someone was looking over my shoulder while I was writing my last post.

He says he perceives such actions (thanking god for victory) as a hate crime belittling the other player/team for not having god's support - especially so if the other was of a different faith.

The next time he sees it he will report it to the relevant authority.

 

[Deleted member 63160]

Unbeknown to me, someone was looking over my shoulder while I was writing my last post.

He says he perceives such actions (thanking god for victory) as a hate crime belittling the other player/team for not having god's support - especially so if the other was of a different faith.

The next time he sees it he will report it to the relevant authority.

You live with Himmi??

 

[transam]

I am not religious

But it makes me laugh when some attack or make fun of some bloke who has Christian beliefs

Yet if he was s Muslim and the same treatment was meeted out you would get the PC brigade playing the race card or accusing some one of being islamaphobic ect ect