The Chinese flu outbreak .......wonder why there's panic ?

[JohnD]

In London, before Clean Air Acts, when coal was used in houses and power stations, there was a "great smog" in 1952 lasting less than a week that caused between 4,000 and 10,000 additional deaths. The problem became apparent when undertakers ran out of coffins. It was so bad that within five years, the goverment took action.

If you were old, athsmatic, or had a bad chest, your chances were particularly poor.

The same people suffer today in a bad 'flu winter.

 

[JP_]

Nurses can do a lot to help keep people alive, many people that survive pneumonia do so because of the actions of nurses.

 

[JohnD]

yes indeed. When you have a handful of cases and sufficient resources.

But when, instead of a thousand cases a year, you have a thousand a day, and the staff themselves may be incapacitated, no so good.

 

[Notch7]

In London, before Clean Air Acts, when coal was used in houses and power stations, there was a "great smog" in 1952 lasting less than a week that caused between 4,000 and 10,000 additional deaths. The problem became apparent when undertakers ran out of coffins. It was so bad that within five years, the goverment took action.

If you were old, athsmatic, or had a bad chest, your chances were particularly poor.

The same people suffer today in a bad 'flu winter.

My Dad can remember "pea soupers", you could barely see your hand in front of you

 

[Brigadier]

My Dad can remember "pea soupers", you could barely see your hand in front of you

I can remember those in the mid to late 1980's round here, always on bonfire night...

 

[ellal]

Do we all know what "Triage" means?

The opposite of farage?

 

[JohnD]

This article
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/world/asia/27china-coronavirus-health.html
seems to say that China does not have a health system with primary care in GP surgeries; instead the people go to hospitals and queue up, often all night, in the hope of being seen.

It also says that patients are not being tested for coronavirus, and that the factories are unable to make sufficient testing kits. This is bound to mean that the "confirmed cases" numbers are inaccurately low.

Apparently they still hope that "traditional Chinese medicines" like flowers and animal parts will be effective.

 

[Notch7]

I can remember those in the mid to late 1980's round here, always on bonfire night...

Yeah, me too

 

[IT Minion]

Apparently they still hope that "traditional Chinese medicines" like flowers and animal parts will be effective.

Just because it's an excuse to (mis)use the quote...

What do you call traditional Chinese medicine that's works? Medicine

So far it's spread much faster than SARS and has already infected more people. This is not s good thing.

 

[Mottie]

My Dad can remember "pea soupers", you could barely see your hand in front of you

I can remember having to stay indoors when I was a child as you couldn’t go outside because of the stuff.

 

[Mottie]

What do BA know that we don’t?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51292590

 

[Munroast]

What do BA know that we don’t?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51292590

Australia seems to have the right idea.

 

[JohnD]

It's great to see that the EU has multi-country co-operation to help handle the problem.

It's likely that the European countries, together, have the world's greatest combination of medical and pharmaceutical resources and skills.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=514989905823965

No doubt the UK will be providing and receiving assistance.

 

[JohnD]

China's figures at midnight

6149 confirmed cases
132 deaths

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http://com.ft.imagepublish.upp-prod-eu.s3.amazonaws.com/17ec440e-42c6-11ea-a43a-c4b328d9061c?fit=scale-down&source=next&width=700

 

[Mottie]

Do we really believe figures given out by the Chinese government? I think the numbers are much, much higher than stated. Numbers can only go up as fast as doctors can confirm the cause of death for them and those numbers should increase exponentially, not lineally. I wonder if it’s anything to do with the fact that the Chinese will eat literally any living creature?