The collapse of the UK and left-wing socialism

[Notch7]

and degeneracy

Unfortunately degenerates are busy lapping up the lies of Farage.

wokeism

That’s just a phoney culture war used by the right to deflect from the real issues

 

[diy_fun_uk]

and the UK collapsing at an alarming speed

No it's not, not in the true sense of 'alarming speed' at least.

I'll say again, maybe we need a term of Reform in Government. That way, if things don't dramatically improve (as they promise) they'll have nowhere to hide.

I can see Farage now at the dispatch box, no different than all PMs before him, coming up with excuse after excuse as to why they've not delivered on this that the other.

 

[Brigadier]

Yes the Boomers had the best of it, but 'net zero' and uncontrolled immigration will make it even tougher for the next generation.

But, if it's what they want, so be it.

I'm alright Jack.

Lucky for you then, Jack.

 

[Odds]

More happy right wanging crap...good gravy; this country has never been less left-wing. The closest i can recall was in '83 when Michael Foot and his donkey jacket took a shot but were never going to get past the Iron Chancellor. Only fifteen out of the last forty years has seen a Labour government, so maybe the Tories should accept much responsibility for the state of the nation.

 

[blup]

It’s the dumb mindset that says whatever else happens Labor must be responsible for Torey failures.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

It’s the dumb mindset that says whatever else happens Labor must be responsible for Torey failures.

If they push through ideas the conservatives started or don’t amend policies they are equally to blame.

It doesn’t matter really they will never get voted in again. Viva le revolution

 

[Odds]

Mr P. nut has started early on his rum ration this morning, i see.

 

[blup]

If they push through ideas the conservatives started or don’t amend policies they are equally to blame.

It doesn’t matter really they will never get voted in again. Viva le revolution

There’s no revolution if the wheel falls off, look at Trumpf’s America. Or do you mean the brexhit revolution when every one feels better, but the potholes get bigger and the waiting lists get longer.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

There’s no revolution if the wheel falls off, look at Trumpf’s America. Or do you mean the brexhit revolution when every one feels better, but the potholes get bigger and the waiting lists get longer

Trump and brexit aside, Labour are ruining the uk one policy at at a time.

But as we all know, they won’t get voted back in next time.

Viva la revolution

 

[blup]

Trump and brexit aside, Labour are ruining the uk one policy at at a time.

But as we all know, they won’t get voted back in next time.

Viva la revolution

They are running it not ruining it. World affairs are often wrongly blamed for domestic problems but not in this case. Voting re form to feel good is like voting Trumpf to feel good.

 

[Notch7]

No it's not, not in the true sense of 'alarming speed' at least.

I'll say again, maybe we need a term of Reform in Government. That way, if things don't dramatically improve (as they promise) they'll have nowhere to hide.

I can see Farage now at the dispatch box, no different than all PMs before him, coming up with excuse after excuse as to why they've not delivered on this that the other.

The Reform party are just free market libertarians.

The would cut public services, cut taxes for the rich, cut workers rights…….whilst they blame foreigners for everything

We’ve just had 14 years of that, it’s hardly a new strategy

 

[Notch7]

Labour are ruining the uk one policy at at a time.

Nwgs2 is a Trump supporter so has no knowledge of facts

 

[Notch7]

But as we all know, they won’t get voted back in next time.

as we all know the alternatives: Conservative or Reform would be far far far far worse

 

[Deleted member 323070]

How long do you think we've got ? --
With Starmer showing no sign of resigning and the UK collapsing at an alarming speed I'm wondering if it'll be too late to roll the dice again in 3 and a half years.

The British public has dabbled with left-wing socialism/ communism since Blair got in, it all started with him. Now the public realise they've made a horrible mistake once again -- it's taken them 30 years to get the message, but is it too late ? How much worse can it get ?

The only white people I meet who vote Labour are low IQ, and that can't be changed, or helped, sadly. The other contingent is the migrant vote.

Having never voted Labour I feel responsible for not taking more of a stand over recent years. I saw through it all from the beginning, surely that makes me more responsible for resting on my laurels and letting it happen ?

Thoughts ?

Your total argument is predicated on your belief that "The collapse of the UK and left-wing socialism" has occurred.
Thus the discussion is centred around whether your perception is correct or not.
I agree totally with those contributors who assert that your perception is incorrect.
Politics of the left, right and centre are not a static position, and shift their own positions, back and for, over time.
As do our own ideologies, which will in turn affect our perception of the current, in vogue, general political positions.
Perception is king, not a quantifiable, qualitative perception of the current positions from an independent assessment.

 

[Odds]

Your total argument is predicated on your belief that "The collapse of the UK and left-wing socialism" has occurred.
Thus the discussion is centred around whether your perception is correct or not.
I agree totally with those contributors who assert that your perception is incorrect.
Politics of the left, right and centre are not a static position, and shift their own positions, back and for, over time.
As do our own ideologies, which will in turn affect our perception of the current, in vogue, general political positions.
Perception is king, not a quantifiable, qualitative perception of the current positions from an independent assessment.

"Esse est percepi," as Mr. Berkeley would say.