This Will Not Work For The Patient

[securespark]

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[Notch7]

What Farage said here is "if different insurers were competing to for example a hip operation, it would be cheaper"

if that is true how come USA healthcare works out to be 2.5x more expensive than UK system

Is Healthcare More Expensive in the US or the UK? A Detailed Cost Comparison

A detailed comparison shows the US spends about 2.5x more on healthcare than the UK across primary care, hospital stays, prescriptions, and out‑of‑pocket costs.

medichem-pharmacy.co.uk

 

[securespark]

It's frightening, and I wonder if the Reform supporters realise it's on their agenda.

 

[Notch7]

It's frightening, and I wonder if the Reform supporters realise it's on their agenda.

Reform have also been talking about slashing the state and slashing benefits.........any citizens of this country which need public services to support their lives should be fearful.

have a look at how much americans are finding out the cost of their healthcare is going up by -the cost is shocking, $50,000 a year for a family

 

[SPLINE]

Expect more "revelations" about Nigel from the loonies, increasing in intensity and seriousness as we get close to....

FARAGE 2029!

(if not sooner)

 

[JohnD]

Expect more information about Farage from people who dig out the truth

Which will irritate the loonies who support him and his lies (see above)

 

[securespark]

Expect more "revelations" about Nigel from the loonies, increasing in intensity and seriousness as we get close to....

FARAGE 2029!

(if not sooner)

So you would be happy to move to an insurance-based healthcare system?

 

[Brigadier]

US health"care", anyone?

And the hypocrisy of those in charge: careful what you wish for.

 

[pete01]

I don't like the sound of it we've always been used to the good old NHS......so Nigels had one bad idea he will get it right by the time hes in power....

 

[securespark]

So you would be happy to move to an insurance-based healthcare system?

Spline declines...

 

[johnny2007]

It's important to keep the NHS public, however, the NHS needs full restructuring.
A former NHS manager tells me that before she left 2 years ago, in her trust 50% of the employees where non patient facing...50%!!!
Don't know how true that is, but even 25% sounds like too much to me.
We could give incentives to employers to adopt a NON COMPULSORY private cover scheme for things that are very expensive for NHS, maybe scans and consultations or even physiotherapy.
Tax relief maybe?
I don't find it fair that some people have to go private because of NHS issues, so I would also start checking on eligibility.
I took my mum to a walking centre a couple of years ago and she duly produced her international health card.
They totally disregarded it and treated her for free.
Now, those agreements are in place so people don't become NHS migrants, why don't they even look at those cards?
I had to produce my UK health card when I attended hospital abroad and they took all the details so to then bill the UK for their services, why don't we do the same???

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It's important to keep the NHS public, however, the NHS needs full restructuring.
A former NHS manager tells me that before she left 2 years ago, in her trust 50% of the employees where non patient facing...50%!!!
Don't know how true that is, but even 25% sounds like too much to me.
We could give incentives to employers to adopt a NON COMPULSORY private cover scheme for things that are very expensive for NHS, maybe scans and consultations or even physiotherapy.
Tax relief maybe?
I don't find it fair that some people have to go private because of NHS issues, so I would also start checking on eligibility.
I took my mum to a walking centre a couple of years ago and she duly produced her international health card.
They totally disregarded it and treated her for free.
Now, those agreements are in place so people don't become NHS migrants, why don't they even look at those cards?
I had to produce my UK health card when I attended hospital abroad and they took all the details so to then bill the UK for their services, why don't we do the same???

I wonder how much the admin of that would cost though.

I don't disagree with the theory but sometimes the costs are worse.

Beware of health insurance. It's quite a regular occurrence for accident victims in USA to decline going to hospital, especially via ambulance, because of a lack of money/health cover.

 

[Notch7]

It's important to keep the NHS public, however, the NHS needs full restructuring.
A former NHS manager tells me that before she left 2 years ago, in her trust 50% of the employees where non patient facing...50%!!!
Don't know how true that is, but even 25% sounds like too much to me.
We could give incentives to employers to adopt a NON COMPULSORY private cover scheme for things that are very expensive for NHS, maybe scans and consultations or even physiotherapy.
Tax relief maybe?
I don't find it fair that some people have to go private because of NHS issues, so I would also start checking on eligibility.
I took my mum to a walking centre a couple of years ago and she duly produced her international health card.
They totally disregarded it and treated her for free.
Now, those agreements are in place so people don't become NHS migrants, why don't they even look at those cards?
I had to produce my UK health card when I attended hospital abroad and they took all the details so to then bill the UK for their services, why don't we do the same???

according to a quick google

53% are clinical staff

21% are "support to clinical staff"

It would interesting to know more about the breakdown of NHS staff and find out what these roles are

I can imagine that porters, cleaners, auxiliary staff, drivers, canteen etc make up a fair number of staff -whenever I visit a hospital theres always porters moving stuff around all the time

 

[johnny2007]

I wonder how much the admin of that would cost though.

I don't disagree with the theory but sometimes the costs are worse.

Beware of health insurance. It's quite a regular occurrence for accident victims in USA to decline going to hospital, especially via ambulance, because of a lack of money/health cover.

Surely.
I think it's important to repeat that in my opinion NHS should remain accessible to anyone entitled to it, but needs restructuring.
Private health insurance could come in as a bargaining chip for employers who decide to offer it, that's why I said "non compulsory".
Maybe there could be a tax relief for employers offering it; calculations at high level should be made to check if this is viable.
Personally I've had private health insurance for donkeys years and saved the NHS buckets of money.
Although some "smart" leftist declared that by having private insurance I have damaged the NHS

 

[diy_fun_uk]

It's frightening, and I wonder if the Reform supporters realise it's on their agenda.

If Reform get in with a decent majority, I suspect those who voted them in will gradually think 'oh feck ...' on a number of fronts.