trainee plumber! please read.

[tonyk84]

just enquiring to see if in any one out there would be interested in taking on a 21 year old trainee.

im willing to learn and very keen,i am training towards my nvq2 n will be qualified with city & guilds 6129 by mid december.

i would only be asking for expenses to be paid for,in exchange for full time work as im after some hands on experience.

i live in stockport near manchester,i have transport and i am willing to travel.

any responses greatly appreciated.
thanks tony

 

[Agile]

Do you have car and can drive it?

Do you smoke?

Can you work 12 hours without flagging?

Will you do do things exactly as taught?

Tony

 

[Paul Barker]

Not talk to customers, either have no fingers or thumbs for texting, or leave mobile behind, never go anywhere without thinking, what do we need of over there that we have over here. Don't just get out of van and walk straight to front door, while your trainer is standing at the side door of the van thinking about what is needed, then has to struggle with all of it because of your haste, but it's OK because when he does get to the door and start work straight away you will be entertaining the customer with your conversation.

Don't come to work at all if you were out the night before playing Pull a Pig or fat bird Rodeo with your mates.

 

[tonyk84]

I am an amateur boxer so i do not drink or smoke.

i can get up in the mornings being a boxer i am used to getting up for early morning runs.

I want to learn i would help do every part of the job and i would do with a smile,I am serious about this and hope that someone takes an interest in me and is willing to take on a hardworking adaptable and loyal worker.

Anyone who takes me on me will not regret it as they will become my main priority and i am willing to start at the very bottom and work my way up.

I will work for free, i have transport i will travel any where in a reasonable distance.

any response appreciated thanks

Tony K

 

[ChrisR]

If you were near me I'd be on the phone.
I can often use someone to put rads and pipes in. Once you can do that you're valuable, but constant employment is not always easy for a one man band. If you get yourself known by a small number of plumbers you can work between, you'll get good insight and experience.

I'm currently employing a lad who isn't super bright but listens to what he's told, phones if he gets held up, asks if he doesn't know, cleans up after himself, doesn't mind being told he's missed something, and I can trust to leave alone. Unfortunately he isn't plumbing!

 

[tonyk84]

ok mate mate thanks for the advice!

i'll get on phone to some local plumbers and see wot happens, hopefully some will have something for me to gain some experience.

any one else with help or advice?

 

[Agile]

I wish you luck!

Its a pity that you are not in our area!

After my last trainee who did not drive, smoked and drank himself silly several times a week I am very sensitive to those aspects.

When you call anyone do tell them in your spiel that you dont drink or smoke and can get up early. Many will see those as some of the most important advantages.

Tony

 

[tonyk84]

Thanks for the advice Agile.

does any one have any advice on how i should go about getting a job once ive qualified? as i have been told its very hard and most employers want experience.

thats why i have offered to work for free once ive gualified to gain on site experience.

is this a good idea?

any help and advice greatly appreciated.

 

[Agile]

Working free is going to be the only way that will enable YOU to pick the best person to train with.

Different people take differing lengths of time to learn the practical aspects and then plumbing covers a very wide range of topics.

Getting a job is very difficult because experience and speed of working is essential for employment and the East Europeans are very experienced and happy to work at much lower rates than have been the norm here.

Colleges turn out 20,000 NVQ2s each year and there are only 4000 jobs, most of which have been taken by the Polish!

It will not be easy!

Tony

 

[Bish Bosh]

tony try dodds in stockport, they have the council contract for Stockport and are usually looking,

 

[Paul Barker]

If you want to drive all the way to Scarborough for one day at any rate you'll get some good support advice and experience. Take your time coming over.

I'm off on a manufacturers jolly for next two days so get in touch after that. oh seevn seevn for ait for ait one twee one one. (anti spam bot way of puting it).

There is a serious issue with smokers who have a lot more brakes just because they smoke and heavy drinkers who are useless to all morning, so you have overcome a massive hurdle.

For us it's a lot of hard work geting someone to the point of being useful, but if they have these problems then they actually drag us down and we do 1/2 the work we normally would. That is why you guys find it so hard to get placements, your associates have wasted so much of our time, and we have all these customers harrasing us all the time to get their job done (and the same customers telling us not to work so hard!) so when a useless college lump hol;ds us back it has repercussions all the way through the business. The job is arduous requires a lot of speed and skill, and attention to detail, these things are hard to do at full rate when you have an audience, and someone asking what you want them to do all the time or asking dumb questions. Look and learn.

Oh and another thing, if you are asked to go to the van for a towel, get it ****ing quick and don't shout about it so the customer doesn't get allerted!

 

[Agile]

My last proper trainee was not that good at fixing boilers but he was magnificant at dealing with customers.

If I had a minor accident and dirty water had spilled on the floor, he would apologise to the customer and explain that we had it in hand and were working to sort it out.

Tony

 

[Bamber gaspipe]

My last proper trainee was not that good at fixing boilers but he was magnificant at dealing with customers.

If I had a minor accident and dirty water had spilled on the floor, he would apologise to the customer and explain that we had it in hand and were working to sort it out.

Tony

Right pompous little toad aren`t you Tony? would love to speak to the gas fitter you trained under. I hear you boast about private schooling yet you struggle to form a coherent sentence, then other times you tell of when you left school at fourteen to follow an apprenticeship, hardly private tuition...you have to have a good memory to be a good liar, as my old Dad used to say, & he should know.. he was a Lawyer

 

[Bamber gaspipe]

just enquiring to see if in any one out there would be interested in taking on a 21 year old trainee.

im willing to learn and very keen,i am training towards my nvq2 n will be qualified with city & guilds 6129 by mid december.

i would only be asking for expenses to be paid for,in exchange for full time work as im after some hands on experience.

i live in stockport near manchester,i have transport and i am willing to travel.

any responses greatly appreciated.
thanks tony

You are a good , decent guy, & all these guys including myself have been where you are now. Unfortunately, you believe as I did that this job was the key to riches, you will never work harder or longer for the kind of money that you will expect to enjoy.Forget an 8 hour day, you will live & breathe regulations,plumbing & Gas forever. For what you earn will never be enough for the graft that you will have to put in. It is not a job that anyone can do. You will have to be diplomatic, cheerful, well turned out, disciplined dedicated & determined, & that may get you a job with a decent engineer. It`s a hard game, & every engineer I have ever met has been a big moaning tart, & every job is a `Nightmare` (true). But if you ever make it to be a good fitter/ engineer you will enjoy the benefits of a good career, but you will always graft harder than you have ever done before.(as an installer, breakdown guys are poof`s).

Another skill is practical ability. No kids these days have got any because they haven`t had to use it, (I blame the parents) my son can`t even fix a puncture on his bike ( I blame his parents). When I was a lad (here we go) we used to build bikes, sheds, iron our own pants, feed ourselves, light solid fuel fires using a shovel & newspaper whilst listening to T.Rex.& Alvin Stardust. Nowadays your lucky to get a grunt from a Neanderthalic teen with an ipod buried in his ear. You wouldn`t think I was only 27 would you.

 

[arfurrrr]

My biggest problem , common sense and the complete lack of it

1st incident : lad wants drill in right hand , picks it up with left and throws it to right , misses , and goes through kitchen ceiling .

2nd incident (different guy) , decides to jump over joists where has been taken up , instead of walking around . Falls through floor , into livivng room , artexed ceiling and all that . He says "ohh , it should only cost about £40 quid" , what planet is this guy on!

3rd incident (different guy) , texts all day long , texts while listening to instructions on installation , so i text him , C U L8ER .

4th incident (different guy) , farts all the time in the property and thinks its funny , customer not home yet but arriving soon , house stinks like a sewer .

All incidents within last 12 months , all working for free wanting expirence .

Good luck on your search .

Arf